GI Fake

[matej]

implement a global illumination in direct light

Then it's not directlight anymore.

Pathtracing exteriors in daylight mode is already very fast. The problem of pathtracing are small and / or hard to find light sources. Speed will come with the new GI kernel (alongside with proper refraction, dispersion...), so that should be the primary focus of development.

Someone here bought this software for its ability to render in pathtracing?

Of course, what else?

[cornel]

@seujose,

I disagree. I bought octane for it´s for its ability to render fully unbiased with pathtracing.
It´s GPU based and blazing fast compared to Maxwell, fryrender, indigo, lux, Thea, which are all CPU based until now.... please correct me if I´m wrong.
10, 15, 24 hours? depends on the scene. I for myself never cooked something for more than 3 hours (outdoor, in 5000x2500px!).
For interiors... matej is right... we have to wait for MLT implementation to get an additional speed-up.

[seujose]

implement a global illumination in direct light

Then it's not directlight anymore.

Pathtracing exteriors in daylight mode is already very fast. The problem of pathtracing are small and / or hard to find light sources. Speed will come with the new GI kernel (alongside with proper refraction, dispersion...), so that should be the primary focus of development.

Someone here bought this software for its ability to render in pathtracing?

Of course, what else?

I think I made a mistake when I bought this software.

"Why You'll Love It?

Not only is Octane Render fast, But It Is Completely interactive Which Allows you to work with your scene in ways That Were not Possible in the past. Edit the lighting, materials, camera settings, depth of field, etc.. in real time with instant feedback on the results. It Allows you to work at the speed of your imagination. Will you feel more like a photographer exploring your scene. It makes fun rendering again. "

This is really possible. Until now I was working well, almost in real time. External light and Environment Maps are great. Extremely fast. All this in direct light mode, of course.
See these images


Ok, the tv is horrible

I think they are alright.
Is enough for me.
Now look at the render time...
Surely, I do not need pathtracing...

But when I started working with interior light in the scene ... The whole thing showed big problems ...

I want a solution that offers a interior light scene with quality.
There is a solution for my needs? I do not care about which algorithm to use. I think as a layman.
If it works, okay!

[Proupin]

ehm, are you all talking about an unbiased or biased render engine? what are the terms such as "ambient occlusion" and so on?
sorry, but i can't resist..

Dude, we're talking about directlighting, which is biased

[Method]

DirectLight rendering is based only on AmbientOcclusion. Therefore, it is so fast.
In many cases, it is sufficient.

[face]

I think I made a mistake when I bought this software.

"Why You'll Love It?

Not only is Octane Render fast, But It Is Completely interactive Which Allows you to work with your scene in ways That Were not Possible in the past. Edit the lighting, materials, camera settings, depth of field, etc.. in real time with instant feedback on the results. It Allows you to work at the speed of your imagination. Will you feel more like a photographer exploring your scene. It makes fun rendering again. "

This is really possible. Until now I was working well, almost in real time. External light and Environment Maps are great. Extremely fast. All this in direct light mode, of course.
See these images
...
Ok, the tv is horrible

I think they are alright.
Is enough for me.
Now look at the render time...
Surely, I do not need pathtracing...

But when I started working with interior light in the scene ... The whole thing showed big problems ...
...
I want a solution that offers a interior light scene with quality.
There is a solution for my needs? I do not care about which algorithm to use. I think as a layman.
If it works, okay!

You use the daylight with the directlight kernel.
Direct light uses the background to iluminated the scene.
If you set the backgound to 0, you have no indirect ilumination.

For the nightshot, set the background to white with a small power value.
That´s the same fake GI, what you use with daylight.

The daylight scene can have a fake GI but the night scene not.
I can´t understand the problem...

If you want speed with pathtracing, wait for Octane with an implemented MTL like algorithm.

face

[carbon]

ehm, are you all talking about an unbiased or biased render engine? what are the terms such as "ambient occlusion" and so on?
sorry, but i can't resist..

Dude, we're talking about directlighting, which is biased

Dude, being ironic is pretty tough in not-my-native-language..
The reason i read and post in this topic is, i wanted express my discordant opinion about requests for biased rendering options in Octane..

Someone here bought this software for its ability to render in pathtracing?

Of course, what else?

excellently said matej, I second that
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[seujose]

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The reason i read and post in this topic is, i wanted express my discordant opinion about requests for biased rendering options in Octane..

And what is the direct light mode?
You want to end up with one of the key functions of the program?

[necko77]

it dosnt matter how much people will say "i dont need it", its ok, you dont need it, but stop spaming here what you dont want,
its better to write what you want on some other topic, capishi be constructive, not destructive

We will get this cos its very needed for many octane users

[face]

I need a new car...