"Max sample" proportional to region render size?

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Fabrice
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A region render allways seems less noisy than a full render of the same scene.
I guess it's because the "Max sample" amount is allways used entirely whatever the size of the region to be rendered.

Is there a way to overcome it?
...it would be very efficient to have the same noise quality result wether rendering a portion or an entire image.
That way we'd be able to find the best "Max sample" value without allways having to re-render the whole image numerous times.
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paride4331
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Hi Fabrice,
With AS you can estimate sample needs very easily.
Sample count is per pixel, so you can make your rating using a small render,
you will have a reasonable evaluation of Max samples required.
As you can see in screenshots, noise samples does not change between rendering with different sizes.
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Fabrice
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Sorry I misexplained myself.
My problem is using the region render.
Here's an example :
Max sample is set to 100
The full image is very noisy.
But the region render (still with Max sample is set to 100) is smooth.
Why this difference?
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paride4331
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Hi Fabrice,
You are using OctaneRender 4.21- 3.03 , you could use 4.33 - 3.06 with Adaptive Sample:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=60014
Here OctaneRender® for 3ds max® v3.06 - 4.33:
https://render.otoy.com/customerdownloa ... -_4.33.exe
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Paride
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Fabrice
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Thanks Paride but in my case the image is globaly noisy so adaptive sample wont help a lot.
And even if I use it the probleme is that I have render the whole image (about 10mn) in order to know if the sample number is enough
...and render another whole image...
wich takes a lot of time!
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paride4331
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Hi Fabrice,
What you are talking about, would not be solved by a region render with partial samples,
the noise in a scene is not homogeneous.
Saying this, if you want partial samples in a region render,
I think you have to use the region render in 3dsMax frame buffer instead of OctaneRender viewport.
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Fabrice
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Thanks for the tip Paride.
It works. Using region render gives consistent results regarding the number of sample.
it's just sad that this way we loose the real-time feedback wich makes Octane's strength.
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