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SciFiFunk
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Hi there.

Posting this under crashes as the result of this scenario means a crash or DAZ Freezes (rest of the computer is ok - I can run other programs)

I'm new to the complexities of multi-card set ups so please bear this in mind. Happy to add missing detail.

DAZ - OCTANE - on a single GTX 760 - no problems. I add in a GTX 780 Ti and now we are in a multi-card set up. I clearly have issues with the 780 as it will fail around 77-78 degrees. I've tested this in OCTANE standalone as well, same thing.

However the reason I'm adding this here (and as a side note - I'd love to know how to stop my new GTX 780 Ti crashing at that temp - it's supposed to max out at 95 degrees according to the nvidia spec), is that OCTANE standalone, carries on - saying 1 GPU failed. DAZ crashes or freezes. This means overnight rendering atm is not possible.

I'm on Nvidia driver version 335.23 I hesitate to use the beta one, but will if you think that helps. Personally I think I've got a setting on the GTX780Ti to learn. Never less I'd hope for DAZ to behave like OCTANE and carry on.

Thanks for your time.
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SciFiFunk wrote:DAZ - OCTANE - on a single GTX 760 - no problems. I add in a GTX 780 Ti and now we are in a multi-card set up. I clearly have issues with the 780 as it will fail around 77-78 degrees. I've tested this in OCTANE standalone as well, same thing.
there are a few things you might try:
the plugin allows to set an upper temps limit and a cooldown time; means rendering stops for a certain amount of time and continues after the specified nbr of seconds. if the card reaches the crticial temps quite fast, this is probably not going to be of much help, as it'll then constantly pause/unpause the rendering.

and you can use tools like i.e. msi afterburner to underclock the card in order to gain better stability.

another measure is to place the card on bottom instead on top (if i remember right, you have the 780 in the topmost pcie slot) - as the card at the bottom dispatches a good amount of heat from the back directly into the fans of the upper card.

ps: i'd also try to test it with the 780 only. if it really starts failing at below 80° already, it is maybe faulty. it really should go way beyond that, even when using octane which gives a constant 100% workload...
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In general, as more of a hardware guy trying to learn software than vice versa, I have to agree with t_3. That card should handle way more heat. Afterburner (or PrecisionX from EVGA, and pretty sure Gigabyte has their own version too), should also allow you to set the curve for the fans (i.e. how hard they kick in and at what temp), which overall tends to result in more stability. If your card is constantly failing at that low of a temp, you'll have to isolate that as a problem by isolating the card. If it does that consistently, I would definitely consider it faulty. Your options at that point would be to either attempt an RMA or attempt to use the fan curve and keep it under that temp.

I'm also not positive, but it looked like your rig is air cooled (please tell me if I'm wrong here), but unless you have a silent case (which is basically a contributor for overheating in any demanding task, unless said system is water-cooled), you should hear the fans kick in under load. Not super drone or anything, but if you can't hear them at all right next to the case, either they've mystically figured out how to move air without sound at all, which afaik is impossible, or they aren't kicking in enough to actually cool the card. While I haven't heard a 780ti in the flesh, I do own two 670s. At idle (fans at 50%, as ambient is high in my room, atm top card is idle @ 35 C), I can hear they are on. Not loud at all, but I can hear them. The curve I set up takes them sharply up to 100% by 72 C, at which point they are loud enough that I can hear each 5% they adjust clearly. Again, it never sounds like a jet engine or anything, but at max load, your temps are rising, and your fans should be moving more air (in my case roughly twice as much), and regardless of start point, be making more sound (which again, in my case, is roughly twice as loud, perceptually). I couldn't hear a difference in your video, and you commented that you couldn't either, so it may be an indicator of something not quite right, depending on your complete rig assembly.

Edit: Just occurred to me, what temp is your 760 at when your Ti fails at 80? A potential issue could be that the fans are indeed trying to push more air through, but lack proper airflow, so the card shuts itself off to keep the fans from generating too much heat themselves trying to pull air they can't get. I want to say I remember about an MSI model having a similar issue at some point in the 600 series. If your 760 is significantly cooler at that point, your fans in the Ti are almost certainly involved in your heat issue (whether it be not spinning enough to keep cool, or unable to get sufficient airflow to do their job), and likely the cause of the shutdown, since most manufacturers design things so the customer (who will invariably set something wrong or otherwise attempt to destroy their new shinies) can't fry it immediately and blame the manufacturer.
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Runing a GTX Titan and a GTX 780 Ti in a multicard setup (Both are EVGA SC versions). Titan gets to 80C and practically stays solid at that temperature while the 780Ti kind of floats between 80-83C. Fans on both cards are reporting roughly ~60% of their maximum RPM and the rendering process is stable.

So if your 780Ti fails under 80C there definitely is something wrong with the card. I would consider RMA.
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hagakure
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I have multiple problems:

The first:

Daz crashes completely when I change materials in the NGE, f.e. change diffuse to specular or glossy. Sometimes it works, sometimes DAZ crashes. Crashreport is in the attachment.

The second:

Sometimes I cant take changes in the NGE. I load a texture, open the NGE, but the NGE doesnt accept changes. I cant load a another texture to replace the other or switch a material from RGB-spectrum to a texture or something others. The NGE accept no change.

Whats the problem? What can I do?
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Veneris
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orion_uk wrote:
but animation render just 13 frames and start repeating same frame over and over.
An issue currently being worked on ;)
I have the same problem, also, I specify 100 s/pix and this rendering only 8 s/pix.

I bought this to create animations and this does not work.
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hagakure wrote:Whats the problem? What can I do?
hi, i'll get back to you via pm...
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Veneris wrote:I have the same problem, also, I specify 100 s/pix and this rendering only 8 s/pix.

I bought this to create animations and this does not work.
can you try a notably higher s/pix setting like 300 or 500 to see if this makes a difference? what gpu do you have?
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Veneris
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t_3 wrote:
Veneris wrote:I have the same problem, also, I specify 100 s/pix and this rendering only 8 s/pix.

I bought this to create animations and this does not work.
can you try a notably higher s/pix setting like 300 or 500 to see if this makes a difference? what gpu do you have?

I have already managed to create an animation successfully.

I've already solved that problem s / pix, what happens is that I had enabled "Constain Time 30 sec / time" I did not know what that was about it. I have Nvidia GeForce GT 620 4 Gigas.
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This scene consistently gives me an nVidia 999 failure using standalone and Poser plugin versions greater than 1.54
At version 1.54 everything works perfectly, and all geometry in the scene is rendered.

Anything greater than 1.54 of the standalone or plugin version is missing scene geometry in the render and crashes to error 999 after a minute or so.

I've been able to save the scene as an 'orbx' (80MB), but it's too big to post here or in other forums for analysis.
So I have included a dropbox link so it can be downloaded and tested by others.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gyywhu6y1zsbzo/loft.zip


Thanks for any help.

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8 Core 3.50 GHz Intel Core i7-3770K
RAM: 32GB
nVidia Titan 6GB
Windows 7 - Service Pack 1
nVidia Driver Version: 335.32
WEB: http://rgus.deviantart.com/
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
RAM: 64GB
CPU: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900K 3.20 GHz
OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows 11 Pro
OCTANE PLUGIN VERSION: 2022.1..1.302 Prime
DAZ STUDIO VERSION: 4.21.0.5 Pro Edition (64 bit)
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