Octane and internet connection

[ycarry]

Imagine that you are in production, you have a short time to finish a project, and you had a problem with the dongle (lost, break,...etc). How do you do?

[Carl S.]

Yes if the dongle fails is ten times worst than the internet.
What do you do if the power goes out on a deadline? Why are you using beta software on a deadline anyway?

If my very reliable cable internet does go out I would use my cell phone, if my cell phone went out, I would use one of the many DSL wifi signals I can get, ect..

[GeoPappas]

Dongles sound horrible what year are you people living in?
It's 2011 around here, where internet flows like raging waters.

You can now use USB sticks (aka flash drives) as dongles.

[Carl S.]

Dongles sound horrible what year are you people living in?
It's 2011 around here, where internet flows like raging waters.

You can now use USB sticks (aka flash drives) as dongles.

Thats not too bad sounding at all. I usually have one plugged in anyway.
As long as it is dual purpose and can still be used for storage and not just as a dongle.

[dono]

I don't know the solution, but for me internet connection is not a good solution...

I know a company that has 10 pcs, but does'nt want to have internet connection on each of pcs, because of possibility of virus... What solution do you propose for that ?

"If the net fails once, or the server for that matter, the whole production would stop and in the morning you can view an error popup, not your frames." What solution do you propose for that ?

[Carl S.]

I don't know the solution, but for me internet connection is not a good solution...

I know a company that has 10 pcs, but does'nt want to have internet connection on each of pcs, because of possibility of virus... What solution do you propose for that ?

"If the net fails once, or the server for that matter, the whole production would stop and in the morning you can view an error popup, not your frames." What solution do you propose for that ?

Radiance has said multiple times what the solution is for that.
How can you place the blame all on Octane when it is equally if not more the super paranoid companies fault?

[Quandtum]

I've developed professional software for over 13 years (using dongles) and never had one fail. Think about it, they plug in and they typically stay there. In an office environment you may pass it to another employee or computer and back. In a personal environment it's in your computer and you leave it there. It's not like you take it out to eat with you and drop it in your drink. It's also not like you couldn't switch to a network (internet) connection for a situation if you should have some issue.

I don't know, my point was is in a professional environment I would never rely on a 3rd party server to be able to complete my job for my customer. Never. I need to be in control of such things to deliver on time. I need to be able to rely on my tools being ready to go when I need them, not waiting because company X decided to move offices and I have to wait a week for the server to return.

I'm just saying is all. In this regard I am a hobbiest, so either way is fine. I'm just agreeing with Dono, I think Refractive will need to work on a solution in order to be in a production environment.

[ycarry]

I know a company that has 10 pcs, but does'nt want to have internet connection on each of pcs, because of possibility of virus... What solution do you propose for that ?

Learn to have a safe use of internet (firewall, avoid ,[e] or [x] keys or restrict usage to Refractive conn. only).

[Carl S.]

I know a company that has 10 pcs, but does'nt want to have internet connection on each of pcs, because of possibility of virus... What solution do you propose for that ?

Learn to have a safe use of internet (firewall, avoid ,[e] or [x] keys or restrict usage to Refractive conn. only).

But, that would mean taking it upon yourself for your situation instead of blaming others

[Carl S.]

I've developed professional software for over 13 years (using dongles) and never had one fail. Think about it, they plug in and they typically stay there. In an office environment you may pass it to another employee or computer and back. In a personal environment it's in your computer and you leave it there. It's not like you take it out to eat with you and drop it in your drink. It's also not like you couldn't switch to a network (internet) connection for a situation if you should have some issue.

I don't know, my point was is in a professional environment I would never rely on a 3rd party server to be able to complete my job for my customer. Never. I need to be in control of such things to deliver on time. I need to be able to rely on my tools being ready to go when I need them, not waiting because company X decided to move offices and I have to wait a week for the server to return.

I'm just saying is all. In this regard I am a hobbiest, so either way is fine. I'm just agreeing with Dono, I think Refractive will need to work on a solution in order to be in a production environment.

2 good points made.
I haven't used dongle since Max stopped using them at version 4 I think it was so I am not very familiar with the failure rate. But they do fail and there was a law passed last year in the United States that makes it legal to use the software if the dongle fails or a replacement is no longer available.
Other good point: "for the last 13 years".
Very outdated. We are talking from 1980. 31 years old. I think it is time to move on.
Maybe refractive can start shipping floppy dics for people with internet that goes down while trying to download the software?