Octane crashing my computer
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I'd try to change frequency of GPUs to lower. And also try to disable one GPU for testing and keep watching the temperatures. Also try some older WHQL studio drivers with clean install.
Octane For Cinema 4D developer / 3d generalist
3930k / 16gb / 780ti + 1070/1080 / psu 1600w / numerous hw
3930k / 16gb / 780ti + 1070/1080 / psu 1600w / numerous hw
I've already tried that. Same results.aoktar wrote:I'd try to change frequency of GPUs to lower. And also try to disable one GPU for testing and keep watching the temperatures. Also try some older WHQL studio drivers with clean install.
I think I have tried everything short of a complete System install.
did you try to physically remove one GPU and try?Anim8me2 wrote:I've already tried that. Same results.aoktar wrote:I'd try to change frequency of GPUs to lower. And also try to disable one GPU for testing and keep watching the temperatures. Also try some older WHQL studio drivers with clean install.
I think I have tried everything short of a complete System install.
Octane For Cinema 4D developer / 3d generalist
3930k / 16gb / 780ti + 1070/1080 / psu 1600w / numerous hw
3930k / 16gb / 780ti + 1070/1080 / psu 1600w / numerous hw
That was it.aoktar wrote:did you try to physically remove one GPU and try?Anim8me2 wrote:I've already tried that. Same results.aoktar wrote:I'd try to change frequency of GPUs to lower. And also try to disable one GPU for testing and keep watching the temperatures. Also try some older WHQL studio drivers with clean install.
I think I have tried everything short of a complete System install.
So I have swapped both cards and they both work individually. I am guessing that despite my having a PSU rated for 1600w I am not getting full output. Would an additional PSU just for the GFX card be a common solution?
I think there are some technical problems with power draw. But some tech peep will help you more by testing these.Anim8me2 wrote: That was it.
So I have swapped both cards and they both work individually. I am guessing that despite my having a PSU rated for 1600w I am not getting full output. Would an additional PSU just for the GFX card be a common solution?
Octane For Cinema 4D developer / 3d generalist
3930k / 16gb / 780ti + 1070/1080 / psu 1600w / numerous hw
3930k / 16gb / 780ti + 1070/1080 / psu 1600w / numerous hw
The 1600 provides far in excess of the power needed for a 4090 + 3090, we run dual 4090 on a 1200 psu here, the realistic load is around 200-250w when rendering, it rarely exceeds 270w; the whole 4090 power draw numbers were all a bit overblown compared to what it actually uses. As someone else mentioned, I would check how you have the power cables set up. Officially pcie 8 pin cables are rated for 150 watts each, but the corsair ones are rated to 300+ watts, hence they can just pigtail the extra connector on the end and still work fine. That said, if you can, its nice to run a dedicated 8pin cable to each gpu input where possible just for extra headroom.
In your position my next steps would be:
Try a different physical pcie slot if possible, maybe one of them is unhappy, we recently spent weeks diagnosing a bad machine and it turns out a duff cpu was providing bad pcie lanes to the gpu depending what slot they were in.
Swap the location of the pcie power cables on the psu to different sockets, spread them out to grab power from different psu rails instead of clustering them all from the same area on the psu.
Run a full DDU driver uninstall and reinstall totally fresh.
Try disabling RTX in octane to see if this helps.
In your position my next steps would be:
Try a different physical pcie slot if possible, maybe one of them is unhappy, we recently spent weeks diagnosing a bad machine and it turns out a duff cpu was providing bad pcie lanes to the gpu depending what slot they were in.
Swap the location of the pcie power cables on the psu to different sockets, spread them out to grab power from different psu rails instead of clustering them all from the same area on the psu.
Run a full DDU driver uninstall and reinstall totally fresh.
Try disabling RTX in octane to see if this helps.
There seems to be plenty of stock here in Australia, so it's not a problem if you aren't picky about the exact model.Anim8me2 wrote:As an aside... where did you score the 4090... I've been looking.
As boxfx mentioned, 1600w is plenty for your dual 3090s. It's possible the PSU is faulty, but it could also be other components (motherboard, CPU, or RAM). The only way to really know is by swapping out one by one with a known working part.Anim8me2 wrote:I am guessing that despite my having a PSU rated for 1600w I am not getting full output. Would an additional PSU just for the GFX card be a common solution?
If you don't have access to extra parts for testing, you can also try using MSI afterburner to lower the power limit on both cards. Set it to about 70-80%. You lose very little performance in Octane (1-3%). I've done this in the past to keep things cooler and more power efficient too.
One last thought... Which motherboard are you using? I don't have any experience with TR motherboards, but some motherboards have extra 4/8-pin EPS connections and/or additional 6/8-pin PCIe connections for extra/stable power. Make sure you've connected all of these to your PSU, just to rule this out.
Win10 Pro / Ryzen 5950X / 128GB / RTX 4090 / MODO
"I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live" - Jesus Christ
"I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live" - Jesus Christ
I'm not sure who I would order from in AUS.funk wrote:There seems to be plenty of stock here in Australia, so it's not a problem if you aren't picky about the exact model.Anim8me2 wrote:As an aside... where did you score the 4090... I've been looking.
If you don't have access to extra parts for testing, you can also try using MSI afterburner to lower the power limit on both cards. Set it to about 70-80%. You lose very little performance in Octane (1-3%). I've done this in the past to keep things cooler and more power efficient too.Anim8me2 wrote:I am guessing that despite my having a PSU rated for 1600w I am not getting full output. Would an additional PSU just for the GFX card be a common solution?
One last thought... Which motherboard are you using? I don't have any experience with TR motherboards, but some motherboards have extra 4/8-pin EPS connections and/or additional 6/8-pin PCIe connections for extra/stable power. Make sure you've connected all of these to your PSU, just to rule this out.
Which MSI setting are you referring to? Under "Voltage" or "Fan - Power Limit"?
I have an Gigabyte Aorus Extreme Mobo and all the correct power connections are there.
Well I didn't mean you should be ordering from Australia (unless you actually live there too? then check https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/vi ... sort=price)Anim8me2 wrote:I'm not sure who I would order from in AUS.
- click the arrow (1) to select the card (2)Anim8me2 wrote:Which MSI setting are you referring to? Under "Voltage" or "Fan - Power Limit"?
- set the power limit (3)
- click apply (4)
If you find settings that work, you can enable "start with windows" in the settings > general tab (5). This will reload your settings when windows starts.
Win10 Pro / Ryzen 5950X / 128GB / RTX 4090 / MODO
"I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live" - Jesus Christ
"I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live" - Jesus Christ
I've lowered both cards by 20% and it seems to be more stable. I can hear the cards ramp up (oddly after the render is complete) but they never tip over into shut down. Thanks for the tip.Anim8me2 wrote:funk wrote:you can also try using MSI afterburner to lower the power limit on both cards. Set it to about 70-80%. You lose very little performance in Octane (1-3%). I've done this in the past to keep things cooler and more power efficient too.Anim8me2 wrote:As an aside... where did you score the 4090... I've been looking.

