Issues with Neftis new Hair Sonia and Orphelia

[larsmidnatt]

Both these hairs eat up too much ram to ever render anything. Crashes daz studio for me. daz hits about 22GB of ram and poops out with a windows warning. Also locked up windows itself on my 3rd or 4th try to force it to work.

I've got 32gb of ram, 8gb on my card, so there is no good excuse.

Has anyone had any luck with these? I loved some of the older stuff from Neftis, but i've opted to try and return these two since they crash hard.

[bmosalt]

For quite some time Neftis has been making hair with fibermesh. He/She does include a warning in the product description, even if it doesn't exactly illustrate just how taxing the hair can be on the system.

Generally vendors are creating more and more complex hair because it's the easiest way to make hair look good. Few actually challenge themselves to create good looking hair through careful design and quality texturing. It's easier to just chuck more polys at the problem. This goes for Daz products across the board, but it's most obvious with hair. Voss hair by AprilYSH is a good example of hair that can be reasonably light and still look very good.

If your system can't handle the Neftis hair, return it. That's what the return guarantee is for.

[larsmidnatt]

I was curious if anyone could get these hairs to work in Octane. I'm sure they work fine with Iray otherwise it wouldn't be on the store.

I have other neftis hair, they are not a problem. I have a lot of fibermesh hair in fact, including body hair for men etc. None of those hair cause any problems. I also have made my own obj hair from LAMH. Full body stuff.

I can't imagine that it really needs 20+gb of ram to work however. Other hair doesn't even dent my ram, even if I load 5 up at the same time (which I did yesterday to see if any more of the new hair I got had the issue)

I could see there being some performance impact, but not being able to load at all is extreme. And I already refunded them yesterday, that isn't the point.

[Sorel]

I dont have those 2 hairs but I have not had any issues with any of their other fibermesh hairs .

[bmosalt]

I have Sonia hair. It has a longer than usual load time in octane and it demands about 1.5gb of vram. Otherwise it works fine. It’s just impractical, especially for complex scenes.

[larsmidnatt]

I dont have those 2 hairs but I have not had any issues with any of their other fibermesh hairs .

Nor have I, thanks.

I have Sonia hair. It has a longer than usual load time in octane and it demands about 1.5gb of vram. Otherwise it works fine. It’s just impractical, especially for complex scenes.

Thanks, this is very helpful information. You gave me an idea. Going to disable my second video card...

EDIT: No dice. Uses 2.6 G VRAM in Iray. Never, ever hits VRAM in OcDS. I tried updating drivers, disabling one of the video cards. Heck I even tried it just using the card with 3GB and still it never loads. Just bloats the RAM till its over 20GB and boom.

So thanks. I tried. Guess this one is a done deal. Wish I could understand why it works for some and not others though. Now I'm scared T_T.

[SiliconAya]

I have Sonia, loading it, the RAM use of DS went from 2GB to 19GB, took a minute or 2 to load, which is a really long time, but once it was loaded DS RAM use dropped back down to 6GB. OcDS Vram use went from ~700mb before to ~2000mb once it loaded. I just had the base G8F loaded first and nothing done to it.
My CPU is the same as yours, 32gb ram as well, but I'm using win7 64bit and gfx card is a GTX Titan, which are much older than yours.

[larsmidnatt]

thanks for sharing your experience with it. sounds like it would be a pain to deal with even if I could get it to load.