So, still no slave licences..

[preciousillusion]

That sounds interesting preciousillusion, I hope they can give you an answer soon

Just don't hold your breath!

[preciousillusion]

Hello Otoy, this should be fairly simple to answer, right? It was like 2 months ago I first asked.

[Goldorak]

Hello Otoy, this should be fairly simple to answer, right? It was like 2 months ago I first asked.

We are working on slave only licenses. The request makes sense. To make this work, it will require a new licensing system different from what we have now (where slaves are no different than full licneces). It therefore can't be an immediate release, but should be completed before 3.1. No, I don't have a timeframe on that, but you'll be the first to known, miss Lane.

[preciousillusion]

Hello Otoy, this should be fairly simple to answer, right? It was like 2 months ago I first asked.

We are working on slave only licenses. The request makes sense. To make this work, it will require a new licensing system different from what we have now (where slaves are no different than full licneces). It therefore can't be an immediate release, but should be completed before 3.1. No, I don't have a timeframe on that, but you'll be the first to known, miss Lane.

I was referring to this:

"How do I transfer my credentials to someone else if I sell my copies of Octane? If I sell all of them I can just change the login email, but let's say I want to keep one?"

[Goldorak]

The answer is we don't support reselling your license. It's been in the EULA since the start and mentioned many times on this forum.

[preciousillusion]

The answer is we don't support reselling your license. It's been in the EULA since the start and mentioned many times on this forum.

Well I live in the EU and here it's perfectly legal to sell used software licenses no matter what any EULA says.
European Court of Justice, UsedSoft vs Oracle

[bepeg4d]

Hi preciousillusion,
it would be a pitty.
Before going ahead, please, consider the irrefutable fact that your GPUs are not working while rendering in Cinema 4D CPU.
With a bit different approach, you would be able to render with Cinema 4D and OctaneRender in the same time drastically cutting your rendering time, instead of insist to calculate one by one.
Just my two cents,
ciao beppe

[NVN]

@Goldorak

sry for my answear but preciousillusion is right.
You cant forbidden "reselling his license"....because its European Law.

There was a precedent in the year 2012?.....and 8-10 Years a Fryrender-Client won before court....

its only a information....

[preciousillusion]

There was a precedent in the year 2012?

The Oracle case I linked to was 2012

...consider the irrefutable fact that your GPUs are not working while rendering in Cinema 4D CPU.

For now, GPU rendering is coming native in C4D.
Maybe the GPUs are used for simulation, encoding or another GPU renderer? They're getting plentiful and more ones are on the way, so please consider the irrefutable fact that Octane isn’t the only software that uses the GPU.

With a bit different approach, you would be able to render with Cinema 4D and OctaneRender in the same time drastically cutting your rendering time, instead of insist to calculate one by one.

Let’s say I have 15 shots with a total of 30000 frames and render time is 1 min/frame on a 4 GPU machine.
On 30 machines that’ll be almost 17 hours of rendering.
If I instead do it the way you suggest I can use 5 machines before hitting the arbitrary 20 GPU limit. Sure I cut per frame render time to 12 seconds, but total render time will be 100 hours instead of 17 hours. Oh, there’s also a 20 sec preparation time per frame, which brings my 30 machines up to about 22 hours and your approach comes in at something like 260 hours.
In short:
My way - Under a day
Your way - 1 week and almost 3 days

But then again, to render on 30 machines with Octane you’ll need to spend $18000.
That’s more than 20 times as expensive as some of the competition, any ideas how I’m supposed to justify that to my CFO?

[Goldorak]

Roy Taylor at AMD, who is working with us on getting Octane on their hardware (see other posts), and who closed this bundling deal with Maxon, will be the first to tell you that AMD ProRender can't and doesn't compete with Octane in any way. As with Cycles, you get what you pay for.

If you or any other customer out there wants to use more than 20 GPUs please just email me ([email protected]) and I will set up a call with you and our LA team to figure out an enterprise license solution for your company and also provide guidance on supported HW at that scale.