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I have been on vacation for the past week which was great... I then came home and checked the news here, since i am so exited about the upcoming 2.3 release
I must say this:
GIVE TERRENCE A BREAK!...
I am so pissed right now, especially after going through 14 fucking pages of bitching and moaning, and an 6 pages in another topic... Terrence came home from surgery not long ago, remember?! Please...
If you cant connect your machine to the internet because of phreakers/hackers/crackers/bored people, you need a firewall...
Just a few. I think it borders too insanity if you have a windows PC with no firewall!..
Im sure most of us here would be devestated if Octane would die because of Crackers. If this is required, im all in. Atleast give it a shot...
I see that this might cause inconvenience if you dont have wireless internet everywhere, like myself, but please, this is so inappropriate! Im sure this is not helping to defeat stress...
Sorry, but i needed to say this. This is just how i feel about it...
Also I understand your emotions ( i feel those strong emotions too, although in the other direction), please consider to calm down as this is what I did too. If you sell somthing then you have to deal with the arguments of your customers if you like it or not. Its part of the business. If you can not deal with this you will not be able to run the business for long. We will all wait for the 2.3 release and then we wil discuss this in a civilized manner, right?
From my point of view, radiance only mistake was opening his mouth too soon.
My concern is the added level of complexity to an already complex program, and the need for something as unstable (where I live at least) as the internet.
I really hope he does it flawlessly.
I hope that the system is incredibly elegant and uncrackeable
I hope all this mess is worth
I hope octane live will be able to cope with crappy internet connections
We will all wait for the 2.3 release and then we wil discuss this in a civilized manner, right?
It was pure primal rage i unleashed there i guess, but it really felt good while i wrote it
I will take it down a notch, the whole message were "perhaps" a bit over the top, really feel it is unfair i guess... Also, im curious about if i were the only one who felt bad, reading through all those pages... I really do understand how it can be inconvenient, but at the same time i see alot of ways to circumvent it... I am not rich! Especially since i think it is very uncommon for us octaner's to move the computer around? An internet connection is very common here in Denmark, so maybe i just cant understand it right...
I hope octane live will be able to cope with crappy internet connections
Well, i hope that too. Would be a bummer to lose the render in progress because the internet went down, that happens frequently at my place.
I really hope he does it flawlessly.
So far he has done a great job so im not afraid yet
These are all things the developers are taking into consideration. What point, monetarily, would it make to have one's software unreliable for the vast majority of users? Just relax everyone. The developers are hard at work, and I mean seriously hard at work. We're talking close to 18 hour days for some. We should see something soon that will give us an idea of how things will be.
System 1: EVGA gtx470 1280Mb and MSI gtx470 1280 in Cubix Xpander for Octane, AMD 945, 4Gb Ram
All systems are at stock speeds and settings.
I'm a little disappointed to see them turn in this direction, but I use internet constantly and rarely have outages, so it will likely not bother me at all (feel for those that it does though, and think it's perfectly appropriate for those who cannot make it work to get refunds).
Comments I've been able to garner from the names in orange, seem to suggest that connections dropping will not kill an active render, or perhaps it was prevent a render (wasn't perfectly clear). They also have promised that they will make sure Octane is comfortable to use. They haven't been idiots so far, so I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt
I personally think the best solution would be something like an octane live scene setup tool or something that requires internet, and can be used for rendering files, and creating octane project files, and then a rendering core that simply reads and renders octane files, and can run on non-connected machines. there may be problems with that also though, so I don't know.
That said, my biggest fear is that some douche-bag with a grudge will sue them into oblivion for the change in requirements before the final product is delivered (even if he doesn't win). Which will kill the fledgling software outright.
I think that the piracy aspect was over-emphasized in the initial delivery, and they are going to see / are seeing some backlash, and will even get requests for refunds. I am hoping, however, that it allows them to stay in business in the long run. I have to wonder/have wondered if part of their low cost business plan ( which I appreciated and benefited from ) was slightly flawed, as I don't know how may 3D modelers are actually out there, but I hope it's a lot and that they all find out about Octane.
If you do this for money, Octane is cheap enough that you would buy it unless you are just a flat out thief who buys nothing.
To be quite honest also, as a paying customer, if I find that the new features prevent me from being able to use octane in a time sensitive project, I'd happily download a pirate version of it and use that instead ( as I'm sure at some point it will exist ) to get the job done. I look for the tool that gets the job done in my budget. If I've paid for the software, and the cracked version does it better, I have no qualms with using that version, though I'd find some irony in it.
CPU - i7-950 3.06 Ghz, 24GB Ram, Win7 x64, 2 display monitors, GeForce GTX 580 3GB Classified. I'm glad to say I LOVE OCTANE!
Terrance's only mistake is trying to have a dialogue with his customers. He should totally ignore all complaints like pixologic does. You can never make everyone happy.
Its 2010 if you dont have a internet connection you are either living in a cave or is too paranoid. Dont visit porn sites on your workstation and you wont get a trojan.
I agree about being to paranoid. I don't intend to sound mean but if your not stupid you won't get a virus, it has nothing to do with just internet hooked to a machine and everything to do with stupidity.
