Don't know who "they" is but Nvidia never said Pascal is 10x faster than Maxwell. They said 10x faster for deep learning tasks.
If you take the CUDA cores out of the equation a 1080 is a massive upgrade in power over whats currently available from them.
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If you want to wait for something faster, you will be on standby for the rest of your lifecoilbook wrote:I don't want to buy 1080 and then find out GP100 gpu will be out after it

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Here is an article that has some speculative specs on GP100 vs GTX 1080Zay wrote:If you want to wait for something faster, you will be on standby for the rest of your lifecoilbook wrote:I don't want to buy 1080 and then find out GP100 gpu will be out after it
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-launch/
As an owner of the Titan X, the GTX 1080 looks amazing, but I can't help but look at the lower 8GB VRAM and lower CUDA on GTX 1080 compared to Titan X. Even if it is superior to the Titan X with its core clock 2x, it still seems like it's not truly stepping into the next realm of GPU I was imagining for...thinking the GP100 maybe will be that true successor card - higher CUDA, more VRAM, more everything.
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1070/1080 will be a solid upgrade for people using 970/980's as it gets them up to 8Gb of VRAM without the price premium of Titan/Ti cards.
You can be reasonably confident the GP100's will come out late this year / early next year with 16-24Gb of VRAM, then a few month's later they'll announce a 1080Ti with 12Gb of VRAM and similar compute performance for half the cost. As long as you don't need the extra VRAM.
For myself doing ArchVis work with 3x 970's at the moment I'm generally ok with 4Gb of VRAM, but having 8Gb by moving to 2-3 1070/1080's should cover me in virtually every situation using Octane.
I don't think you'd upgrade your 980Ti's to 1070/1080's unless you needed the extra VRAM, the performance in Octane probably won't be that much greater to justify the upgrade price. The Nvidia marketing team are notorious for overstating the performance of new products based on the performance difference over the previous generation in some obscure benchmark set up specifically to favor the new product...
You can be reasonably confident the GP100's will come out late this year / early next year with 16-24Gb of VRAM, then a few month's later they'll announce a 1080Ti with 12Gb of VRAM and similar compute performance for half the cost. As long as you don't need the extra VRAM.

For myself doing ArchVis work with 3x 970's at the moment I'm generally ok with 4Gb of VRAM, but having 8Gb by moving to 2-3 1070/1080's should cover me in virtually every situation using Octane.
I don't think you'd upgrade your 980Ti's to 1070/1080's unless you needed the extra VRAM, the performance in Octane probably won't be that much greater to justify the upgrade price. The Nvidia marketing team are notorious for overstating the performance of new products based on the performance difference over the previous generation in some obscure benchmark set up specifically to favor the new product...
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Looking for some more input to decide if I should buy 1080 at launch or wait a bit longer to upgrade.Daniel_Ward wrote:1070/1080 will be a solid upgrade for people using 970/980's as it gets them up to 8Gb of VRAM without the price premium of Titan/Ti cards.
You can be reasonably confident the GP100's will come out late this year / early next year with 16-24Gb of VRAM, then a few month's later they'll announce a 1080Ti with 12Gb of VRAM and similar compute performance for half the cost. As long as you don't need the extra VRAM.![]()
Is it safe to assume that it will be at least 6, 9 or 12 months until the next Titan or 1080 Ti with HBM2 VRAM are announced and available for purchase?
or
Is there some chance that we might actually see a Titan with HBM2 memory already in Q3 2016?
-> Is anyone still thinking that Nvidia held back some news to still release them at Computex?
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If you want to wait for newer cards to come you can wait forever, because newer cards will always followlinvanchene wrote:Looking for some more input to decide if I should buy 1080 at launch or wait a bit longer to upgrade.Daniel_Ward wrote:1070/1080 will be a solid upgrade for people using 970/980's as it gets them up to 8Gb of VRAM without the price premium of Titan/Ti cards.
You can be reasonably confident the GP100's will come out late this year / early next year with 16-24Gb of VRAM, then a few month's later they'll announce a 1080Ti with 12Gb of VRAM and similar compute performance for half the cost. As long as you don't need the extra VRAM.![]()
Is it safe to assume that it will be at least 6, 9 or 12 months until the next Titan or 1080 Ti with HBM2 VRAM are announced and available for purchase?
or
Is there some chance that we might actually see a Titan with HBM2 memory already in Q3 2016?
-> Is anyone still thinking that Nvidia held back some news to still release them at Computex?

My advice is just to think about today... If you think you need more renderpower, I would get it... if not really needed at this point, then I would wait.
replacing a i.e. titan or 780ti with a 1080 would be a waste, but to add a new card to your config,
(depending on your config possibilities ofcourse, and your needs... Maybe you need more then 6gb vram)
hey... why not, if you are in to this vr thing, new gaming features, or to gain renderpower.
Just my few cents
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It has supposedly 9 TFlops of FP32 peak performance computing power, while 980Ti had about 6. I suppose both on stock clocks with the preset boost, no other overclocking in either case.FrankPooleFloating wrote:What are you basing the 160 score on?.. If it does indeed just yield a 160 OctaneBench score, I will probably not be crying in my beer after all, for recently dropping almost $1400 on my 980Ti Hybrids... I was under the impression that it would be way higher, based on hype.
Anyway, based on this, 160 looks kinda realistic and personally with possible OC to clocks above 2GHz it could be even more, like 180...which i suppose would be Titan Z levels? Not bad, given that was 3000 EUROs GPU not so long ago.
Has to be said, i dont know whether 125 for 980Ti at OctaneBench is meant for that card at stock clocks or overclocked one. If its for already OCed up to 1400 -1500 MHz, which is its ceiling, then i guess 160 for 1080 is too much.
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Nah they never said that this oversimplified. It can do certain things in certain situations ten tiems faster ... but that maybe be a very limited thing or is only applicable to gaming and adapted engines (togther with thign slike DX12 or Vulkan, to use the CPU better alongside) etc.coilbook wrote: i thought 10 times faster than maxwell. That's what they said last year
Nvidia certainly never said "this will do anything ten times faster than Maxwell".
It is all about ask and demand, and about timing of purchase.. Titan Z's were to be bought around 1400-1500 euro for quiet a period.Timmaigh wrote:...FrankPooleFloating wrote:What are you basing the 160 score on?.. If it does indeed just yield a 160 OctaneBench score, I will probably not be crying in my beer after all, for recently dropping almost $1400 on my 980Ti Hybrids... I was under the impression that it would be way higher, based on hype.
Anyway, based on this, 160 looks kinda realistic and personally with possible OC to clocks above 2GHz it could be even more, like 180...which i suppose would be Titan Z levels? Not bad, given that was 3000 EUROs GPU not so long ago....
The start price of the 1080 does not seems too bad. Would be awsome to see a '1080 Z' equivalent in the near future

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