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Hello, thanks! Do the shaders 'fix' some of the issues (like create a bypass of the need to reduce the Normals power from 2 to 0 in certain cases, like the 3Delight mats on G3F) or are the work-arounds still required in conjunction with the shaders?by TRRazor » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:33 am
Nope, all of our released shaders work well in DAZ Studio.
We will also continue to support OcDS in future releases.
We've actually never supported the DAZ3D figure normal maps (although it would be fairly easy, to accommodate for them in the shader layout).like create a bypass of the need to reduce the Normals power from 2 to 0 in certain cases, like the 3Delight mats on G3F
This is exactly the kind of information I would like to see regarding planned updates in the future. Specific and focused goals so that we know what's going to be fixed and within what time scale. Even if only a few bugs are dealt with at a time at least these are concrete and quantifiable goals that we can actually test with each update. Until we receive this kind of detail I can understand the frustration with non-specific assertions of resolution because that's been the modus operandi so far and it's worn very thin. I'm really pleased OTOY appear to be on the case this time but, considering the past, it's still difficult not to still have doubts.Notiusweb wrote:One if the problems with this whole thing is that there is never any specic exciting detail as to what is happening on the plugin side, nor any interest in the feedback from the user community.
For example, we don't see:
"Next update will resolve the bug with iray materials converting from Daz to OcDS."
Or,
"Which update will be most critical for your use?"
It's all very vague, so in terms of utility the frustration remains. All conversations with T_3 following the plugin's last update, for good or for bad, never materialized into anything. Other plugins seem to have developers who are very interested in the specific technical plugin feedback from its users. We are starved for this type of relationship.
Otoy, we are not viewing this forum because we are interested in the resolution of some term of agreement between Otoy and a developer. We are interested in it because we want to do renders. We want to render with as much efficiency as we can possibly have, and have it be fun. And if something isn't working right we want to enjoy being involved in the process of development.
Goldorak, I do not believe TRRazor would ever dismiss his user audience like we have seen in our experience. In fact, TRRazor went out of the way to add perspective on an issue not under his control, expressing his viewpoint. So a 3rd party developer's involvement should not inherently be something which slows a process down, or makes it more ambiguous. The users here are victim to a uniquely frustrating dynamic (...and deserve a 1/2 off another pluginPost by TRRazor » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:42 amWe've actually never supported the DAZ3D figure normal maps (although it would be fairly easy, to accommodate for them in the shader layout).like create a bypass of the need to reduce the Normals power from 2 to 0 in certain cases, like the 3Delight mats on G3F
We've mostly tweaked them in order to be used with a subD of 3, instead of the standard "0" value + normal maps, as this gets you the same geometry detail, without having to worry about the issue.
It's a mere drag and drop and your figure is ready to be rendered within seconds.
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)Spectralis, I appreciate the concurrence. I consistently concur with your sentiments as well.Post by Spectralis » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:48 am
This is exactly the kind of information I would like to see regarding planned updates in the future.
TRRazor, I am checking out the Redspec products as we speak, not because they bypass an issue, but because the results do look great
Thank you guys - really appreciate itSpectralis, I appreciate the concurrence. I consistently concur with your sentiments as well.
I know this might come across like a mutual love-in but the RedSpec products are utterly fantastic and indispensable. I used the G2M skin materials on one of the figures in an installation I created for my MA final show and a show in a central London gallery and visitors were asking if the animated figure was filmed because it looked so realistic. With the right lighting and model the skins look incredibly realistic.TRRazor wrote:TRRazor, I am checking out the Redspec products as we speak, not because they bypass an issue, but because the results do look greatThank you guys - really appreciate itSpectralis, I appreciate the concurrence. I consistently concur with your sentiments as well.
This is great to hear - I'm glad the shaders were able to elevate your art to another levelI used the G2M skin materials on one of the figures in an installation I created for my MA final show and a show in a central London gallery and visitors were asking if the animated figure was filmed because it looked so realistic
Hmm.
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DAZ Studio (Export Script Plugin developed by Tugpsx; Integrated Plugin developed by t_3 and co-dev katura)
As far as I can put together katura may be the plugin developer who was supposed to work with t_3 in 2012 / 2013 and then bailed on the project. This was the start of all the issues we are experiencing now.leblancd wrote:Hmm.
From the list of sub-forums...I wonder what that means.Code: Select all
DAZ Studio (Export Script Plugin developed by Tugpsx; Integrated Plugin developed by t_3 and co-dev katura)
Also, I wonder who is 'katura'.