wait for Pascal?

[Timmaigh!]

So my 590 seems to be beyond repair and i will have to look into replacement. Obviously the GTX980Ti is the one i would probably want the most, since Titans are out of my price range and at the same time i dont want GPU which would be actually slower than my 590 was...

now though, i am reading some good things about the upcoming Pascal architecture, apparently its got to be 10x faster than Maxwell? Now i guess that just usual marketing BS, in real apps it would be still way lower, but even if the next top of the line Pascal card next spring will be 2x as fast as current top offering (980Ti) for the same price, its definitely worth waiting.

Another thing that caught my eyes, there was some talk about its new mixed precision capability (FP16), something Maxwell cards cant do (if i got it right), which should speed-up specific computing tasks, which can use that. I recall reading on this forums once, it was a post by one of the devs, Abstrax or Karba (or whatever was the nickname, not sure now) , that Octane uses just half precision... so perhaps Octane could benefit from this greatly too?

I would be fairly unhappy if i dropped 750 EUROs on 980Ti now, only in say 6 months to find out, i could have had 2x as fast GPU, if i waited that bit longer. Anyone with any background info or insight about what to really expect?

[smicha]

If you don't want to wait there are 780 6gb for 230 GBP at overcloclers

[whersmy]

get a second hand cheap 590! in the meantime

dont think pascal will be that much faster...maxwell..kepler..fermi...every script needs to be updated for new architectures.
optimsations will be needed, but octanes team hopefully will suprise us again. like they did past couple of years

[Timmaigh!]

Thanks for your responses.

Sorry, but i am not buying another used 590 (i would maybe consider used Titan Z if the price was right), neither do i want 780, since it would be probably slower than 590 used to be. Feels kinda shit to pay money for something which is not even as good as the thing its supposed to replace. Therefore 980Ti is pretty much my only choice right now, nothing else is significantly better than 590. The upcoming dual chip maxwell dual chip card will be most likely expensive as hell and out of my price range...

anyway, i might wait for Pascal. I wonder if Octane devs have any contact with Nvidia and have any idea, what is to be expected. SImilarly, i would be interested in Octane 3 OpenCL version performance on AMD cards, what if its going to way faster than CUDA version, therefore bye Nvidia and Fury X is going to be the best bang for the buck? Would be really great to know....

EDIT: Now reading the roadmap thread for Octane v3, seems OpenCL has not been implemented yet, despite being close to alpha. I was under impression this is the key feature of the v3 , so i assumed that would be already done by now. Clearly not.

[Refracty]

I would expect a dual Titan X soon.
Usually thats the way things happen at Nvidia. Selling a single GPU card and after some time the dual version follows as the final product of the line.
So before Pascal I expect a dual Titan X: "Titan Y" with maybe 24 GB VRam
Even if you won't buy this cards the prices for the Titan Z and Titan X will drop then.

[glimpse]

I would expect a dual Titan X soon.
Usually thats the way things happen at Nvidia. Selling a single GPU card and after some time the dual version follows as the final product of the line.
So before Pascal I expect a dual Titan X: "Titan Y" with maybe 24 GB VRam
Even if you won't buy this cards the prices for the Titan Z and Titan X will drop then.

if nVidia keeps playing as they were before, prices of TitanX or 980Ti will not drop any time soon, & that dual GPU card might be priced as hight as 3K (TitanZ, that was technically two TitanBlacks cost 3x more..hurting the value of the card for Octane users =)

Pascal is reserved for big data centres first - that were big money comes from, once that gap will be filled, then average consumer will get their hands on...Pascals too.

but again that's not facts, just interpretations based on how nVidia behaved in recent years =)

[fatrobotsneedlove]

Considering how poorly the Titan Z sold, I would hope nvidia learned their lesson and the dual Titan X (Y? X2?) will be close to the cost of 2 titans x's.

The 'secret meeting' that it was supposedly shown to the press at was over a month ago though. I wonder if there were problems...

[Refracty]

First of all I don't believe that the Dual GPU card will cost 3K. With the Titan Z the price at the release was already at the maximum for Gaming enthusiasts and Nvidia knows this. So they might adapt and the other cards will adapt in the chain. And I would not bet that the Pascal GPU will be nececarily reserved for big data centers first. When we look at Maxwell we see that the GTX Titan X was released even before the Quadro M line up so the gamers tasted the performance boost first.

But whatever you choose it will depend on the VRam you need, too.
So in terms of performance you will not see much a difference if you compare your old 590 and a new TitanX.

I would expect a dual Titan X soon.
Usually thats the way things happen at Nvidia. Selling a single GPU card and after some time the dual version follows as the final product of the line.
So before Pascal I expect a dual Titan X: "Titan Y" with maybe 24 GB VRam
Even if you won't buy this cards the prices for the Titan Z and Titan X will drop then.

if nVidia keeps playing as they were before, prices of TitanX or 980Ti will not drop any time soon, & that dual GPU card might be priced as hight as 3K (TitanZ, that was technically two TitanBlacks cost 3x more..hurting the value of the card for Octane users =)

Pascal is reserved for big data centres first - that were big money comes from, once that gap will be filled, then average consumer will get their hands on...Pascals too.

but again that's not facts, just interpretations based on how nVidia behaved in recent years =)