4K monitor as second or third monitor possible?

[glimpse]

Don't buy it Rappet - cheap, low grade TN panel..don't get hooked on price..

for orientation: 24" inch no lower than 800$/EU (like that mentioned dell ~1k)
for bigger models accordingly more - 30" -32" probably doubling the price..

Don't settle for anything less than IPS - for color work it's the only solution
& in terms of 4K- these prices are as mentioned.. I'm not starting to talk about specialised solutions like Eizo & alike - for these You need to be willing to spend twice more at the same size range.

just thoughs, so You wouldn't get sad (like it would have been with two Zs =)

[rappet]

OK guys,
I am awake now... Won't do the stupid thing and rush and get it.
I'll do better homework with your thoughts in my backpocket
Thanx, you guys. Great help.. Otherwise I would be crying and got that thing, only because it is 4k and cheap.

[rappet]

I got wiser about the TN and IPS....
And I rather have 24" then 28" with same res
(Edited: want 24" not to have too big screen for render window, but 28" is better to see more details...mmm? Not sure about that)
I have found a pretty good deal for a Dell UltraSharp UP2414Q for appr. 600€
That is the one I have my eye on now.
Strange how you can pay 1099€ at one place and 609€ at another for exactly the same product
Thanx again guys for good advices.
Cheers,

[glimpse]

I've seen resolutions side by side & personally I prefer 24" as perfect size.
For the detail, it's hard to say..guess it depends on Your eyes too =DDD

mm, 600EU? (4K, IPS..) that's a nice deal! =)

[Phantom107]

That's funny Rappet, that's exactly the exact same monitor as I work on, the Iiyama 28" 3840x2160!

It's a TN panel, but it is a mighty good one. If you calibrate it right, it works excellent.

There is a big mistake a lot of developers/artists have made in the past and that is to calibrate artwork entirely for super high quality displays. Guess what happened? It looked awful on anything below screens with that quality. When you work on a not-top end screen, you can be sure that it looks awesome on ALL devices (people's PCs, tablets, phone, etc) with the bonus that it looks even more awesome on super expensive displays. And you could always use an existing IPS screen to do the final color grading on. In my opinion it is not that important. Probably differs from person to person. Clients looking at your website will not have an IPS screen, that's for sure.

Would definately not do 24". Everything is already super-tiny compared to 1080p, and it just looks amazing at 28".

Here's a (crappy) pic I took with my phone:



4K is truly amazing to work on, I would never want to go back to a tiny 1080p screen.

Just my two cents, hope it helps.

[glimpse]

in some extent I do agree with Guus, but not 100% & here's is why..

when You get to bigger screen, Yes - You never want to go back =)

When You You get to high DPI monitor, You will not want to get down. But if You're not using $K screen as Your main, one & only, the 24' size is perfect ('cos of before mentioned reasons like colour uniformity). Pluss if You using one (or more) smaller resolution screens, You can have Your pallets & other stuff out there.

now about screens being too good =) life would be very easy if it would be good and bad screens, like 0 & 1. But in reality things are a bit more complex. Let's say You have when You have professional grade, calibrated panel with colors as the should be, the mistake, if it's going to be on the clients monitor will not be that big as if You & client would have screens that are oppositely deviated..-that makes the issues twice more intense. get the point?

here is another from personal experience. I need to make low studio shot..black environment & an object..spend my time & get to the client..it was good that we made a review on GOOD screen as then in the dark areas I've start seeing thing I've never seen on my crappy monitor.. (the same situation was once with white areas - when I though, ou it's entire background is white, but it wasn't)..

the main thing is to see all info as it is in the picture & to see it in standard. I free just partially with the pony about lower grade screen on user side..- id depends who is that user..- if You working for architect, it's pretty high chance that they have good expensive equipment & if not..You might have some last minute changes & rush when the start printing works You've provided..

so again it depends what is your target audience, for whom You're delivering Your work. TN panels are not bad, they are just not as good on colours as IPS & that's it..pluss their viewing angle issue is really a headache..- I like changing my sitting pose while doing something & I don't want to rotate my screen every time I move my head, or lean on arm or put a leg on a seat..

but Yeah..price wise, You can't beat TNs - they are very good priced..& if You're not forced to have really colour accurate screen, pluss if You have some kind of ergo stand, that allows You to monitor freely however You want (to avoid colour shifts & so) - that might be a perfect solution for some. The best would be just to get to shop & see things side by side. Get some of Your works (that You know how they should look) & try to see them on screens, comparing side by side & even with the prints..-at least that's what my frien has done who was picking that 4k DELL..- color wise these are amazing!

[Seekerfinder]

Would definately not do 24". Everything is already super-tiny compared to 1080p, and it just looks amazing at 28".

I'm with Phantom on this one. I have been looking at entry level 4K screens and it's interesting to see where they're going. It's also important to know that not all TN panels are the same. Here is a quote from Techreport on this (http://techreport.com/review/26510/4k-f ... r-reviewed):
"Frankly, I would have written off the PB287Q as uninteresting if I weren't vaguely aware of the fact that not all TN panels are created equal. When I came face to face with an early version of the PB287Q during CES, it was shockingly not awful. Downright decent, even.

I don't even know who I am anymore.

But I do know that the PB287Q hosts the best TN panel on which my eyes have ever fixed their gaze. In fact, it's a pretty darned good display."

Linus also thinks it's a decent display - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEMvkNSmXSY

Just to confuse you a little more over there Rappet... (oh, and congrats on winning the lottery!)

Seeker

[Phantom107]

Not 100% sure on this, but if you look at the specs of the affordable 4K monitors of AOC, Iiyama, Samsung, Asus.. the panel specifications are the 100% exact same. So I'm pretty sure those are all using the same panel. Just different casing & software. I think the Dell one is different though.

[rappet]

....
Just to confuse you a little more over there Rappet... (oh, and congrats on winning the lottery!)
...
Seeker

Hi Seeker,
Yes I am confused and going from left to right, up and down, but not to the store yet
(Oh, And thanx... But maybe I have been on water and bread for a while, lottery sounds better though )
Cheers,

[rappet]

That's funny Rappet,
...
Just my two cents, hope it helps.

Hey mate,
Funny indeed, thanx for your two cents.. Helps and confuses.
Maybe I will do a coinflip.
Cheers,

Hey guys,
Right now the battle is still on
Ijama PROLITE B2888UHSU-B1 TN 28" 500€ (but a very good TN)
versus
DELL up2414q IPS 24" 600€
Cheers