First, do not overlook incentivizing your imagination. Then, throw your rock into the pond that interests you and marvel at the ripple effect. Don't be surprised if some fellow/subsequent traveler retrieves that rock and discovers it to be made of gold. Don't have any regret that you didn't notice the rock's ultimate value, but rejoice in the finder's having a keener eye than did you, for that rock that you once held is now brightening someone else's journey. Moreover, you did help to create a wave!
Notiusweb wrote:Tutor can try his 12 GPU rig right now to try and top my 1260, but I think he's waiting to decimate it on Obench3.
On Obench3 I'll have 13 going, as I'll have my Regular Titan X as the 13th. All things same as V2, I would venture my score ~1360.
I tweak my GPUs [and CPUs] to compete only against one individual and that individual and I share the same shell. If someone likes my tweaking's effects, I'll gladly tell any of them how I did it, getting into the minutest of detail. My ultimate goal is to top my last best score. That's not to say that your Titan Z scores didn't play a part in my understanding of the cards' potential for tweaking. It did. The scores that I list in my signature or elsewhere are to inspire others of like mind to compete against their past scores by showing them what an old man can do as a baseline. There are trade-offs in competing against only one's self, but I'll take those trade-offs gladly considering that I like managing my own self-improvements.
Notiusweb wrote:Did you know on Daz Studio, IRay renderer, and separately through other apps, on Indigo Renderer Beta 4, you can use all GPU as well, PLUS your CPU (the only limit is your imagination...). However both are slower than Octane, which means you have to have a good imagination too...
Thanks for this information. Keep feeding us [
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7SkrYF8lCU ]. As I've posted in this thread earlier, there are other 3d rendering applications that also do not artificially impose GPU limits; but I didn't know about the leeway of the applications that you list. Technological/actual use limitations are to be expected. I think it's admirable when the maker of a 3d application comes right out and says "Our testing shows that X app can handle at best x no. of the GPUs that we've tested [and list them specifically], but you're welcome to try all of your GPUs that you can muster." I just don't want my provider to secretly limit my ability to realize all that X app has to offer me because the provider is secretly [or semi-secretly or even openly] in competition with me - the customer.
As far as imagination goes, one just needs to treat the brain as a sacred vessel: remember to constantly feed the brain physically (such as by good diet and exercise) and use it constantly (such as engaging in constant learning , becoming maximally curious about everything imaginable and savoring the excitement in using the brain to tackle the myriad of tasks we face). Having/marshalling proper emotions and goals also play a part in having a good imagination. For example, when one devotes his/her time to helping others achieve their dreams, imagination is given proper purpose and becomes inspired by the greater goods which are everlasting, outliving our individual shells because the good we do becomes intergenerational. Chose to not allow bad emotions, such as (but surely not limited to), pettiness, selfishness, defeatism, etc. to affect our relations to others, i.e., our immediate family and, yes, our worldwide family consisting of all humanity. For example, my posts related to this build has the potential to benefit many: (1) those who want to sell old MacPro systems, (2) those who want to own a MacPro for 3d work, but cannot afford a MacPro 2013, but can afford an older (most likely used) MacPro, (3) those who sell 3d rendering software, such as, e.g., Otoy, (4) those who sell GPUs, (5) those who wish to sell old Intel processors, etc. Some might say that's just a tiny impact, but every little bit helps even if it helps just one person, especial if that person pays it forward by helping someone else and the chain of being of assistance to others continues onward. That the kind of synergy can help to further spur our creativity/imagination once we realize how powerful our imagination can be in impacting the goals, hopes, desires and lives of others. A mind, without imagination revealed and the fruits of imagination passed on, is a terrible thing to waste. Notiusweb, it's obvious from looking at your Titan Z system's highest and other Octane Bench scores that you haven't been wasting your mind, that you have a very productive imagination, that you have have excellent mental faculties and that you often compete against yourself. Wasn't that 1260 Octane Bench score not your first try in bench marking your GTX Titan Zs? Wasn't there no one other than yourself against whom you could have been in competition? I'm not waiting to decimate your score with even more GPUs. That wouldn't even be a fair comparison - 12 apples vs. 12 apples plus an an orange, a banana and a some grapes isn't a fair comparison. Your score could be higher if you further chilled your system's coolant as I have suggested to you earlier, assuming that you get that ailing Titan Z GPU treated. I will post some more of my scores in the future, but certainly with the hope and expectation that someone else will come along to best all of those scores on an apple to apples basis and further educate me about how I can further improve my systems' performances. It's the give and take that leads to our long term growth and through our humility and aid to and from others that we will prevail for the long term.
Notiusweb wrote:Tutor, is that where the rig resides, or just the building point? I didn't know a Mac could house so many GPU
, but if there's anyone I know that would MACify a rig to its fullest, it would be a member of the High Council
Qapla'!
The pre-trashcan MacPros were built to house just one double-wide GPU as evidenced by there being only 2 six-pin PCIe GPU powering points and only one double wide slot. Going beyond Apple's intent by deploying a second double-wide GPU internally would not only require adding another power source for the second GPU, but would also when using a 1xSix-pin and 1xEight-pin GPU card occupy/cover both the second (a single-wide) x16 PCIe slot and the adjacent single-wide x4 PCIe slot, leaving only the last single-wide x4 PCIe slot empty. A couple of years ago on MacRumors' MacPro site I set forth a method of loading internally a third double-wide PCIe GPU, but to be done properly that involved sacrificing/removing three of the hard drive bays and modifying the drive support bracket, as well as adding additional power resources. I like the method that I've employed this time best. No hard drive bays are sacrificed, the GPUs are allowed to be spaced further apart and aren't heated by system internals or exhausted heat, the Apple intended PCIe compartment stays cooler, the extra GPUs can run at the maximal intended speed and I can run more GPUs and not have to sacrifice using other cards that assist in 3d and video production processes. On the downside, I lose one of the two DVD drive bays because I have, for now, installed in it's place a 450W BoosterX power supply to power the internal GTX 780-6G; however, I might, in the end, use a beefier external power supply to power the internal GPU if I decide to stick with only four external GTX 780-6Gs and save space for my second DVD drive. If, on the other hand, I decide to go with six GTX 780-6Gs (i.e., five external and one internal) for this build, then I'll also likely stick with the BoosterX PSU in one of the DVD drive bays. Of course in the near future, I'd like to substitute those 780-6Gs with five or six GTX 1080 TIs, and then use those GTX 780's to update one of my three older MacPro2,1s (circa- early 2007), after getting them to run the latest MacOS supportive of the 780-6Gs. I also intend to pass down GPUs now in other newish systems to the other MacPros as I add newer GPUs to those newish SandyBridge systems. I've installed the top of the line CPUs for their era in the 2007 MacPros and I have installed de-lidded X5690s CPUs in the MacPro4,1 (2009), making the 2009 system about as fast for most CPU related chores as would be the 2013 trashcan MacPro. Isn't GPU rendering technology great for those who can profitably put it to use on old hardware to preserve system longevity and investment costs?
The MacPro4,1's present location is just a building point. I use portions of my garage/basement not only for storing vehicles, but also for doing some others of my chores, such as building systems, car repairs, home repair project staging, exercising my body, preparing for outdoor planting, etc. So, in essence, this area consists of my laboratories. That MacPro system when completed will go into my studio and the next system I chose to upgrade will go onto one of the workbenches for improvements. System improvement has been, still is and will likely be an ongoing process that I'll have to fit in-between render jobs.
BTW - All of us are members of our High Council and I cherish every one of our meetings.
Because I have 180+ GPU processers in 16 tweaked/multiOS systems - Character limit prevents detailed stats.
