GPU performance

[radiance]

Hey, we have many cards here in our office and i need to update my sig
my main office machine has 2x GTX480.
One GTX480 is about as fast as 4 of those older quadro FX3800's in octane render.

The only difference between quadro and geforce is drivers and max/maya are supported much better by the quadro drivers.
The best setup for a pro user is a quadro for display / modeling and a 2nd GTX400 series card (headless) in a 2nd PCI-E slot for octane rendering. That will give you lots of octane power and smooth modeling in max/maya while octane runs in the background on the GTX400, which is way faster for octane than an equally priced quadro.

Radiance

Radiance, do you have good performance in Max/Maya viewport with the PC that has two GTX 480?? I saw many people complaining about the performance of the GTX 480 in Max, saying that it's laggy and really worse than their old cards like 9800GT or 8800GT.

Which driver do you use? Any special one? Any unusual configuration?

Cheers!

Hi,

Sorry but i don't have a copy of max or maya in the european office at this time, so i can't do any tests.
In NZ we have Max, but we don't have any GTX400 cards...
Maybe in the near future.

One thing is that indeed the geforce drivers are 'handicapped' for DCG applications by nvidia at the driver level, to ensure all users of max,maya,etc... all get quadro cards.

Radiance

Radiance

[pedrodeleo]

Hi,

Sorry but i don't have a copy of max or maya in the european office at this time, so i can't do any tests.
In NZ we have Max, but we don't have any GTX400 cards...
Maybe in the near future.

One thing is that indeed the geforce drivers are 'handicapped' for DCG applications by nvidia at the driver level, to ensure all users of max,maya,etc... all get quadro cards.

Radiance

Radiance

Hmm.. ok! I need to choose a card to buy, I'm almost going for the GTX 480 (I guess it's the best overall Price X Performance). I just don't know if it'll work with Max. Did you know anyone here that uses the GTX 480 with Max and works fine? I don't want to buy a card that will not work correctly with my main 3D software..

[andrian]

Hmm.. ok! I need to choose a card to buy, I'm almost going for the GTX 480 (I guess it's the best overall Price X Performance). I just don't know if it'll work with Max. Did you know anyone here that uses the GTX 480 with Max and works fine? I don't want to buy a card that will not work correctly with my main 3D software..

Hi, I'm 3dsmax user and I have GTX480. It's working flawless within MAX, very fast and responsive viewports with no errors so far. This card outperform any quadro card I have tested. And the performace with Octane it's awesome as well..

[radiance]

Hi,

Sorry but i don't have a copy of max or maya in the european office at this time, so i can't do any tests.
In NZ we have Max, but we don't have any GTX400 cards...
Maybe in the near future.

One thing is that indeed the geforce drivers are 'handicapped' for DCG applications by nvidia at the driver level, to ensure all users of max,maya,etc... all get quadro cards.

Radiance

Radiance

Hmm.. ok! I need to choose a card to buy, I'm almost going for the GTX 480 (I guess it's the best overall Price X Performance). I just don't know if it'll work with Max. Did you know anyone here that uses the GTX 480 with Max and works fine? I don't want to buy a card that will not work correctly with my main 3D software..

as said the best setup for max users is to get a cheap quadro for modeling (and use it's DCC oriented drivers), and a 2nd card, a GTX480, headless for octane rendering.

Radiance

[pedrodeleo]

as said the best setup for max users is to get a cheap quadro for modeling (and use it's DCC oriented drivers), and a 2nd card, a GTX480, headless for octane rendering.

Radiance

Yeah, I thought about that too..

But the Quadro FX1800 seems to be a little weak, compared to the FirePro V5800.. It's possible to use a FirePro and a GTX 480 ?? A guy said some posts above that he can't make his Quadro DCC driver work when he uses the GTX 470.. And you said you always choose Geforce over Quadros, why you recommend me to get a Quadro?

Hi, I'm 3dsmax user and I have GTX480. It's working flawless within MAX, very fast and responsive viewports with no errors so far. This card outperform any quadro card I have tested. And the performace with Octane it's awesome as well..

That's nice! I guess you're the man I'm looking for over these weeks

What driver do you use? Any special or different configuration? What Quadro card did you tested? Can you make the Evermotion forum test we where talking about some posts above? Here is the link:http://www.evermotion.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72251

Notice that there is a guy complaining about the performance of the GTX 480, he posted some words on cgtalk and nvidia forum aswell.

If the GTX 480 works nice with Max I'll probably get one, the price difference between the Geforces and Quadros is extremely huge and scary!


Cheers guys!

[andrian]

I did the test and it's making in for 19.7 seconds. I saw the other peoples performance and I must say that they do must fix they'r drivers.

PS: it's max 2009, and 1680x1050, viewport it's on expert mode, mean full maximized no menus and it's all like in the test smooth+Highlights+Edged Faces , the FPS goes more than 30 and at the end was finished up to 100FPS. Driver is 197.75 on Vista 64. And I just import the OBJ file into the Octane and it's rendering with 37FPS at default settings..

[pedrodeleo]

I did the test and it's making in for 19.7 seconds. I saw the other peoples performance and I must say that they do must fix they'r drivers.

PS: it's max 2009, and 1680x1050, viewport it's on expert mode, mean full maximized no menus and it's all like in the test smooth+Highlights+Edged Faces , the FPS goes more than 30 and at the end was finished up to 100FPS. Driver is 197.75 on Vista 64. And I just import the OBJ file into the Octane and it's rendering with 37FPS at default settings..

Damn fast!

They might be using a different configuration, the time difference is huge... If you have an account there post your result for them,

look at iceman32 post there:

Hi

Picking up this due I just bought a GTX 480 card and felt really dissapionted about the performance in 3ds max so I had to test this and see how it did, and yes, it's really bad... I hate Nvidia right now, my old 8800GTX did much better in viewports than this card...

TIME: 1,39 (99 secs)
Video CARD: Asus Nvidia GTX 480
CPU: Intel i7 930
SO: Win 7 Ultimate x64
MAX Version: 3ds max 2011 Design x64
System Driver: 258.69
Max Driver: Direct 3D
Screen Resolution: 1900x1200
RAM: 12GB DDR3 @ 1333mhz

Maybe the resolution is causing this big difference? I'll try to talk to him about your result, and driver version, he's on cgtalk aswell..

Anyway thanks for the help!!

Cheers!

[kubo]

I think there is two huge differences between both test, first screen resolution, but more important max version, 2010 and 2011 in my experience are gpu hungry, and not that well optimized, 2009 runs much more smoothly on default install.

[pedrodeleo]

I think there is two huge differences between both test, first screen resolution, but more important max version, 2010 and 2011 in my experience are gpu hungry, and not that well optimized, 2009 runs much more smoothly on default install.

The driver might be doing some difference too.. I'll talk to than and see if they can make the test with this driver... Do you have any chance to make these tests in Max 2010 or 2011 ? I'm planning to use the 2011 version, if the difference is that big I might think about staying with the 2009.. But the 2011 has some great improvements..

What do you mean by "default install" ? Is there any optimized option?

[kubo]

I'm afraid I can't test those scenes at the moment, but yes there is quite some optimizations on max, but in the 2011 and 2010 versions, if you get rid of ribbon and of that annoying floating camera gizmo you'll get quite an improvement, there is some other things you can deactivate, check the area forum, plenty of suggestions there. Drivers are quite important, of course.