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radiance
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get a quadro with it's DCC drivers for 3ds max and get a 2nd GTX480 for octane render, that's a nice setup.

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Win 7 x64 & ubuntu | 2x GTX480 | Quad 2.66GHz | 8GB
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Maryus3D
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Quadro is definitely faster http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/ ... html#sect0 . I also recommend a FX 3800 I think is enough for viewport and a GTX 480 for CUDA or two depends on your budget. AMD X6 is a good CPU you can buy it.
pedrodeleo
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What about Octane on OpenCL/ATI ? Anything going on?

The main problem is that the Quadro FXx800 cards are years behind in terms of hardware compared to the Vx800 FirePro.
I want to know where are the Fermi Quadros!

Considering a US$1500 combo for CPU+GPU, buying a FX3800 + GTX480 + CPU would be quite far from my budget.

I'm planning to go with i7 980X + V7800 and than in a near future get a GTX480. But read people are having trouble using ATI + NVIDIA cards on the same mobo...

The other option would be the Phenom X6 1090T + V8800. The V8800 it's a really powerfull card, I really wanted ATI cards to be compatible with Octane.. =(

The other option is Phenon X6 + V5800 or FX1800 + GTX480 (considering the US$1500 budget).

In terms of GPU render will a 980X make any difference compared to Phenom X6 ?? 980X has some amazing performance, but thinking about price/performance I guess Phenom X6 is still better.

Thanks for the help guys!
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Maryus3D
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/nvid ... he-wait-/6 Maybe ATi is not that good in OpenCL as nvidia. A single GTX 480 will do relatively good in 3D max because is a DX based app. The differences in performance between GTX 480 and V8800 is not that big in DX based apps but for Quadro nvidia develops a special performance driver for max and autocad. You can see in the review in the post above.

EDIT: FX 1800 is based on G94 chip. Is not a bad card after all and is cheep too. But I don't know the difference between a GTX 480 and a FX 1800 in max.
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I saw some tests and looks like the V8800 it's by far better than FX4800 in all viewport stuff. But I don't know how real are these tests and what will happen in a real world enviroment. Also, I read in a forum some people comparing FX1800 and GTX480 in Maya 2010 and 2011, the Quadro is much better in viewport 1.0, in viewport 2.0 GTX480 is like a monster.

This is the thread

Also this link Shows some GPGPU permormance for the Vx800 series of FirePro, is this related to OpenCL/CUDA processing?

But I can't find information about GTX480 in 3ds Max viewport.

Here's a review in Newegg where a guy tells a little about 3ds Max performance with FX1800 vs GTX 260.

Do you know where I can see some good tests with GTX480 vs Quadros/FirePRO ? Mainly something related to 3ds Max..

Thinking in a +- US$1500 budget for GPU+CPU would you recommend going for a Phenom X6 1090T + FX1800 + GTX480 ?

Another option is to get a 980X + a mid-range Pro like FX1800 or V5800 and wait some months to get another card dedicated for GPU Render.

I also noticed that another program based on GPU Render called Machstudio Pro says that the V8800 is the best card, but looks like it's hardware Render, and this is nothing to do with CUDA or OpenCL, right? It might be a partnership between the 2 companies and nothing related to overall performance..

Do you know any bench with the FirePRO vs Quadro/GTX480 in OpenCL ?? (Not common Radeons)


I appreciatte your help, thanks a lot!
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radiance
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just get any cheap quadro, wit 512MB+ for modeling/animating, a nie geforce fermi card, fast and lost of ram for octane,
an x64 OS as 8GB RAM (to voxelise large models), and the cpu does['nt matter too much, can even be a dual core.

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falcon76
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radiance wrote:just get any cheap quadro, wit 512MB+ for modeling/animating, a nie geforce fermi card, fast and lost of ram for octane,
an x64 OS as 8GB RAM (to voxelise large models), and the cpu does['nt matter too much, can even be a dual core.

Radiance
Just one thing: my configuration is OK (FX580 for video and GTX470 for Octane) but I cannot install the 3DS Max (and Autocad) performance driver. Don't know why but it doesn't recognize my card (anyway is in the first PCI-E slot).
This WE I will do some test, trying to remove the second card and so on....
I wonder if someone has the same problem.

Ciao
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pedrodeleo
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radiance wrote:just get any cheap quadro, wit 512MB+ for modeling/animating, a nie geforce fermi card, fast and lost of ram for octane,
an x64 OS as 8GB RAM (to voxelise large models), and the cpu does['nt matter too much, can even be a dual core.

Radiance
But do you know anything about GTX 480 performance in 3ds Max ? Considering viewport..

I read recently that 3ds Max does not take big advatage of the Quadro/FirePro cards in real enviroment. People usually say that 3ds Max is better optimized for DirectX and not OpenGL like the Pro cards. If that's true I could get a 980X + GTX 480 and be happy with viewport and rendering. Any comment?

If it's not good in Viewport I guess the Phenom X6 + FX1800 + GTX480 would be the best way to go..
Just one thing: my configuration is OK (FX580 for video and GTX470 for Octane) but I cannot install the 3DS Max (and Autocad) performance driver. Don't know why but it doesn't recognize my card (anyway is in the first PCI-E slot).
This WE I will do some test, trying to remove the second card and so on....
I wonder if someone has the same problem.

Ciao
Luca
What do you say about your Viewport performance for the GTX470 compared with the FX580?? Can you give me any number?
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What do you say about your Viewport performance for the GTX470 compared with the FX580?? Can you give me any number?
I try during the week end. Which test can I use?
I'm downloading SPECapc 3DS Max 9.
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pedrodeleo
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I try during the week end. Which test can I use?
I'm downloading SPECapc 3DS Max 9.
Hmmm I don't know exactly. I was thinking about something more "home made" and real, like opening a big and heavy scene in one card, than in the other one. SPECapc might give some result too, but I guess real world tests are more accurate.

I think you can find some scenes here:

http://www.3dspeedmachine.com/?page=3

Or maybe this one:

http://www.evermotion.org/vbulletin/sho ... hp?t=46777

Try testing the viewport FPS with lots of polys and texture, and maybe render time.
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