Cinema 4D version 4.01.1-R2 (stable) 13.12.2018

Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:05 am

OK, I think I got it to work now. I exported an Object from C4D via Octane's live viewer via the 'Export to package (orbx)' command. I had tried it with an .orbx file generated in Octane Standalone before. Is that not possible then?

The reason I'm asking is because what if I want to make some changes to the .orbx in Standalone, like generate materials or the like?

Also, I watched this tutorial 'Octane Render for Concept Art' by Julien Gauthier (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHAydeWg0wk) and he makes ample use of the Material Map node in order to layer displacements on top of each other, which isn't directly possible in C4D directly. So I was hoping that it would be able to import assets - that have been treated like this in Standalone - directly into C4D. Is that possible?

Beppe OctaneRender™ Italia Blue Sky · Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:26 am

Hi Ferdinand13,
please share with me the .orbx file from Standalone via PM.
In our tests, importing from Standalone, or other plugins, works smoothly.
ciao Beppe

Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:28 am

Hi Beppe,

Thanks for looking into this. Attached is an ORBX of a platonic that I loaded into Octane Standalone as an OBJ and then added a universal material with a noise. I chose 'Save as Package', which turned it all into an ORBX file.

Now when I import it into C4D, the viewport remains empty and nothing shows up in the Live Viewer either.

On a side node, after restarting my machine, the ORBX that I generated within C4D finally showed up in C4D's viewport and the Live Viewer, however, making changes to the ORBX in Standalone didn't update in C4D. I had to shut down the program and restart in order to get those updates, which is a bit tedious and defeats the seamlessness of the lovely link you've created between both programs.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:49 am

Hey Beppe,

Quick update - the platonic tripped me up, because the scale changed from centimetres to metres in Standalone, so the thing was too big in the Live Viewer to be seen. Zooming back though however, I can see it now. So that works. The reason I was confused is because the ORBX doesn't show up in C4D's viewport - no bounding box, no point view. Also - as mentioned before - I have to restart C4D every time I update the ORBX in Standalone. Not even deleting the initial ORBX Loader and then creating a new one and loading the same updated ORBX does the trick.

Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:53 am

Hi,
agree with that !

Ferdinand13 wrote:... I had to shut down the program and restart in order to get those updates, which is a bit tedious and defeats the seamlessness of the lovely link you've created between both programs...!

If it is possible,we would need a script like for textures, which reload orbx after edition..

thanks

Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:56 am

Ferdinand13 wrote:Hey Beppe,

Quick update - the platonic tripped me up, because the scale changed from centimetres to metres in Standalone, so the thing was too big in the Live Viewer to be seen. Zooming back though however, I can see it now. So that works. The reason I was confused is because the ORBX doesn't show up in C4D's viewport - no bounding box, no point view. Also - as mentioned before - I have to restart C4D every time I update the ORBX in Standalone. Not even deleting the initial ORBX Loader and then creating a new one and loading the same updated ORBX does the trick.

BTW, here's an ORBX generated with the C4D plugin. In this case, the ORBX loader generates a bounding box/points in the viewport. Just in case you'd like to check out the differences between both files.

Cheers!

Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:57 am

Ferdinand13 wrote:Hey Beppe,

Quick update - the platonic tripped me up, because the scale changed from centimetres to metres in Standalone, so the thing was too big in the Live Viewer to be seen. Zooming back though however, I can see it now. So that works. The reason I was confused is because the ORBX doesn't show up in C4D's viewport - no bounding box, no point view. Also - as mentioned before - I have to restart C4D every time I update the ORBX in Standalone. Not even deleting the initial ORBX Loader and then creating a new one and loading the same updated ORBX does the trick.

You can see it in vertex mode also. ORBX object needs some polish and improvements for ux and features. I'll do soon.
One note: Orbx should have rendertarget node or geometry out node and main group with geometry should be connected one of those. So plugin can know and find the geometry to use.

Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:10 am

Thanks Ahmet. I tried making the platonic visible in vertex mode, but that didn't work either. Could you have a look, if you can get this object to show up?

Also, a little thought, which may or may not be possible to implement. Depending on the size of the geometry within the ORBX file, you'll have to zoom in or zoom out quite a lot in C4D's viewport and you probably know, how slow and unresponsive the navigation gets after a while. Usually I get around that by pressing "S" to "Frame Selected Elements". After that, viewport navigation is quick again.

However, as it stands, the ORBX geometry doesn't exist for C4D, so pressing "S" doesn't frame the geometry included. Is there a way to add that function? That'd be great.

Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:20 am

Ferdinand13 wrote:Thanks Ahmet. I tried making the platonic visible in vertex mode, but that didn't work either. Could you have a look, if you can get this object to show up?

Also, a little thought, which may or may not be possible to implement. Depending on the size of the geometry within the ORBX file, you'll have to zoom in or zoom out quite a lot in C4D's viewport and you probably know, how slow and unresponsive the navigation gets after a while. Usually I get around that by pressing "S" to "Frame Selected Elements". After that, viewport navigation is quick again.

However, as it stands, the ORBX geometry doesn't exist for C4D, so pressing "S" doesn't frame the geometry included. Is there a way to add that function? That'd be great.

Understand the problem.
there is need to have a scatter before every mesh geometry. Just a note, orbx object is still need improvements and I'll work on. And as I can see that 'S' is working if orbx object can load the any geometry in plugin side to display for viewport.

Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:39 am

Hi Ahmet,

Thanks for the update. Yeah, I think I'll have to be patient until it's all working properly

However, pressing "S" when I can actually 'see' ORBX geometry in the viewport only centers the view for me, it doesn't 'frame' it (i.e. zooms in to the correct size). Does it do it for you, when you use the Phone_3.orbx I provided earlier?

Thanks for letting me know.