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prodviz wrote:Great to see the network rendering working, cheers for posting.

On the render speed, would it fair to say that the rig with 4 x 580's (which each have 512 cores) could be compared to just under 1 x Titan Black (which has 2880 cores)?

And that the rig of 4 x 680's (which each have 1536 cores) would be similar to just over 2 x Titans?

So, coupled with the 4 x Titan rig, the render power is similar to 7 Titan GPU's?

Still a chunk of render power :shock:
Prodviz, You can't compare cores side by side, firstly 'cos they are from different architektures, secondly 'cos it's not only number of cores that matter, but speed they are running, etc..

While 680 does have more cores than 580, these are based on Kepler architecture actuall speed of a card is very simmilar to 580(fermi architecture). Titan(black) is a different beast, it's kepler too, but unlike 680 based on GK104, Titan has GK110 chip that is about twice as capable, pluss You get 6GB instead of 4GB of vram attached =)

ask for Gabriel, maybe he'll give exact numbers =) but I think these are already adressed in bechmark thread somewhere in the forum =)
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Cool, cheers for the info, Glimpse.

Would be cool to see a side by side comparison of all the recent cards.

I'm pretty keen to see Grabrielle's tests once he gets his second Titan Black rig too.

cheers,

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2 hours for a 2560x1400 is not scary

I remember when I waited 8 hours for a 3500x2500

but...

If the 2.01 have the same 1.2 speed then you can divide 2 hours by 2,5

It seems that adding new features to Octane it will lack performance.

Following the exponential curve in two or three years Octane will render these images in 30 hours with my current gpus...

P.s.
my Alpha 99 at 100 iso and a Zeiss 85mm F1.4 produces noisy shots.
Someone add noise or grain in videos, movies and photos...
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prodviz wrote:Great to see the network rendering working, cheers for posting.

On the render speed, would it fair to say that the rig with 4 x 580's (which each have 512 cores) could be compared to just under 1 x Titan Black (which has 2880 cores)?

And that the rig of 4 x 680's (which each have 1536 cores) would be similar to just over 2 x Titans?

So, coupled with the 4 x Titan rig, the render power is similar to 7 Titan GPU's?

Still a chunk of render power :shock:

prodviz,

I've coined a measure that I call "TE." "TE" stands for "Titan Equivalency." Since I use my Titans mostly for 3d rendering, I've defined TE in relation to OctaneRender's then current Benchmark ccene (in seconds), using Barefeats test found at [ http://www.barefeats.com/gputitan.html ], using the original reference design (oRD) Titan as a base. Here's how TE works:

Since the Titan that Barefeats used took 95 sec. to render that benchmark scene, (1) one GTX 680 that takes 190 sec. to render that scene gets a TE of .5, or (2) 2 GTX 680s that together render that scene in 95 seconds get a total TE of 1, or (3) 8 Titans that each render that scene in 95 sec., each get a single TE of 1, but combined they have a TE of 8, or (4) as in the case of my GTX 690 (tweaked) that renders that scene in 79 sec., it gets a TE of 1.20 [ 95 / 79 = 1.20253164556962]. Remember to keep the following in mind as number of GPUs rendering together exceeds two. In OctaneRender, your performance will scale linearly when using the same model GPUs with the same setting. How this works with only two GPU is easy - if one renders the scene in 200 sec., then the both of them will render the scene in 100 sec. But here's were the little tricky part starts: If you want to render the scene in 50 sec., it'll take twice the number of GPUs that it took to render the scene in 100 sec. That means it'll take 4. If you want to render the scene in 25 sec., it'll take twice the number of GPUs that it took to render the scene in 50 sec. That means it'll take 8.

Here’s some examples using most of the GPUs that I run:

GPU Performance Review

I. My CUDA GPUs’ Titan Equivalency*/ (TE) from highest to lowest (fastest OctaneRender**/ Benchmark V1.20 score to lowest):

1) EVGA GTX 780 Ti Superclock (SC) ACX / 3gig (G) = TE of 1.319 (The current Titan Black should perform a little better since it has slightly higher base, boost and memory speeds, but unfortunately for me I don’t own one, so I can’t test it);
2) EVGA GTX 690 / 4G = TE of 1.202;
3) EVGA GTX Titan SC / 6G = TE of 1.185;
4) EVGA GTX 590C = TE of 1.13;

The original Reference Design (oRD) Titan that Bare Feats tested = TE of 1.0 (95 secs);

5) EVGA GTX 480 SC / 1.5G = TE of .613;
6) EVGA GTX 580 Classified (C) / 3G = TE of .594; and
7) Galaxy 680 / 4G = TE of .593.

The TE values were derived by dividing the respective render times that it took the card to render the V. 1.20 Octane render Benchmark scene in secs. into 95 secs. That’s why and how the slower cards got a fractional TE value of less than one (their render time in secs - the denominator - was greater then 95). Conversely, a faster GPU gets a value greater than one. So my GTX 680 is only about 59% as fast as an oRD Titan and my GTX 590C is 113% faster than an oRD Titan. You can also add values for multiple slower performing cards to determine numerically how doubling their number compares to the original Titan on that benchmark metric. If, like me, you love math, go for it.
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Still IMHO 1.2 is so much faster than any higher version! Not because of the render speed, but also dealing with large scale interior space(such as a shopping mall),the 1.2 version response very quick(not just ms/s)and still can modeling when realtime viewport is rendering,but in 1.5 or 2.01,when u open realtime window,that means u lose 3dsmax viewport control(even gpu is set to low priority),pretty much do nothing in 3ds max!(actually 2.01 even worst)!

please try some large scale scene, and u gonna in love with 1.2 just like me :) :) also please fix the rendering performance :cry: :cry: or I will stay in 1.2,like forever......
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Cool, cheers for the info, Tutor.

It is interesting to see how the cards compare next to each other.

I've x2 Titan Blacks at the mo, which are pretty quick on product shots.
Haven't tested any interior scenes in V2 yet though.

Cheers
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prodviz wrote:Cool, cheers for the info, Tutor.

It is interesting to see how the cards compare next to each other.

I've x2 Titan Blacks at the mo, which are pretty quick on product shots.
Haven't tested any interior scenes in V2 yet though.

Cheers
If you like that info, then indulge me a little longer. If it's not too much trouble, please use Octane render 1.2 and run it on the 1.2 Octane render benchmark scene to test the accuracy of the following, first activating only one of your Titans, then activating them both and let me know the render times in secs:

Estimating TE Differential of GTX 780 Ti vs. GTX Titan Black

I. Factors considered are:

1) Pixel (GP/s) differential */: 42.7 (GTX Titan Black) / 42 (GTX 780 Ti) = 1.01666666666667

2) (a) Core count, (b) memory speed (MHz) and (c) bandwidth are the same on both GPUs

3) Base clock rate differential: 889 (GTX Titan Black) / 875 (GTX 780 Ti) = 1.016


II. TE of EVGA GTX 780 Ti Superclock (SC) ACX / 3gig (G) = 1.319

1.319 (780 Ti TE) * 1.016 (Titan Black important differentials) = 1.340104

95 (time in secs taken by oRD Titan to render 1.20 Benchmark scene) / 1.340104 = 70.89002047602276 secs (estimate of time in secs one Titan Black will take to render 1.20 Benchmark scene); therefore,
two Titan Blacks should render the scene in ~ 35 to 36 secs. Also, one Titan Black would be expected to have a TE of 1.34 (1.340104 rounded) and two Titan Blacks would be expected to have a TE of 2.68 (1.34 * 2 = 2.68). Accordingly, it appears that it would take 2.68 of the original reference design Titans to yield the same rendering performance of two Titan Blacks. **/



*/ Info source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nv ... sing_units

**/ One can use EGVA Precision X to affect how a GTX GPU performs Octane renders. The most important parameter is the memory speed, secondly is the core and thirdly is the boost clock. Don’t mess with the voltage until you’re a tightrope walker. Remember that when tweaking, less is more. So tweak relevant values in baby steps and test render the Octane benchmark scene at least five times (noting the render time changes and especially system stability) between each stride (subsequent change in memory or core or boost clock) and always keep those temps as low as possible. If your GPU(s) already run(s) hot, then use Precision X to underclock these same parameters. But remember, you’re always tweaking solely at your own peril.

BTW - That my eight 780 Ti SC ACXs achieved a TE of 1.319 means that each one of them rendered the Benchmark scene in 72.02 secs.; two of them in 36.01 secs.; four of them in 18.00 secs., and eight of them in 9 secs. That's how linearity truly works and in Octane, I've found it's validity to be true for my GTX 480s, 580s, 590s, 680s, 780 Tis, Titans and even my lowly GT 640s that I use for scene viewing and maintaining scene interactivity.
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I only have as far back as 1.51, so here are the test figures:

Octane 1.51

Benchmark scene using PMC:

1 Titan 5.59Ms/sec ish
render time 1 min 47 sec

2 Titans 11.2Ms/sec ish
render time 53 sec

and for interest:
Octane 2

Benchmark scene using PMC:

1 Titan 5.25Ms/sec ish
render time 1 min 55 sec

2 Titans 10.53Ms/sec ish
render time 57 sec

cheers
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Great breakdowns, Tutor! Thank you.

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prodviz wrote:
Still a chunk of render power :shock:
not for real :)

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LOL :mrgreen:

forgive me ;)

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