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Octane Render for SketchUp 3.07.0.14 Test Release

Postby CaptainCrowbar » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:22 am

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Release Notes for Octane Render SketchUp Plugin 3.07.0.14

This is a test release based on the Octane SDK version 3.07. Because this is only an interim test release, builds are currently available only for SketchUp 2017; the next stable release will as usual be compatible with both SketchUp 2016 and 2017.

Changes in This Release

Scene conversion and rendering is now completely suppressed when the Octane window is not open, or when the pause option is activated on the toolbar.

Environment settings are now automatically transferred from the Octane view of a scene to SketchUp. When you adjust the sun position in the Octane environment node, SketchUp's sun follows (you need to have shadows enabled in SketchUp to see this, of course). This feature has a couple of limitations:

- SketchUp's lighting model is much simpler than Octane's, so there are many settings on the Octane side that can't be copied to SketchUp simply because SketchUp has no way to reproduce them.

- We don't yet support different lighting models on the Octane and SketchUp sides, This means that, if you set the Octane lighting to anything other than Daylight, you will see inconsistent behaviour as the plugin tries to reconcile the Octane and SketchUp versions of the scene. Full support for other lighting models will be added in a future upgrade; for the moment, we only fully support the Daylight model.

Bug fixes:

- The material picker in the Octane window now works.
- You can now use materials from the LiveDB without crashing.
- Node graph changes are no longer lost when the Octane window is closed.
- The Mac plugin no longer breaks when all scene windows are closed.
- Camera settings are no longer carried over when a new scene is opened.
- Changes to daylight settings are now reliably saved.
- In SketchUp scenes with multiple views, the default view is now also saved as a separate render target.
- Re-opening the Octane window no longer resets some of the render settings.

About This Release Series

The 3.06+ release series represents a thorough redesign of the plugin's user interface. The plugin now uses a separate window of its own, similar to the standalone Octane Render application. You can open this window through the Octane button on the SketchUp toolbar, or from SketchUp's Extensions menu.

The Octane plugin window is built from a set of panels similar to the standalone app:

* The Scene Outliner (on the left in the default layout) shows an expandable list of all nodes in the Octane version of the scene. This panel also has tabs giving access to the LiveDB and the local database.

* The Render Viewport (top) shows the image rendered by Octane. This was originally a separate window in earlier versions of the plugin.

* The Node Graph Editor (bottom) depicts a "sandbox" that shows only the material nodes (and linker nodes connecting them to the geometry); the rest of the node graph (geometry, rendering options, etc) is hidden. You can manipulate the material nodes in the same way you would in the Octane standalone app.

* The Node Inspector (right) shows the full details of any selected node, and allows them to be edited by hand.

You can learn more about the new user interface from the manuals and tutorial videos for the Octane SketchUp plugin and the Octane Render standalone application:

* SketchUp plugin manual
* Octane Render standalone manual
* Octane Render 3.06.4 release notes

SketchUp Plugin v3.06 - Introduction Video



Other Recent Changes

* The plugin is now available for Mac as well as Windows. The Mac version has all the same features as the current Windows build, and the two versions will be kept synchronised in future releases. Please note that, like the Windows version, the Mac plugin requires an Nvidia video card compatible with CUDA 8.0. Most recent production Macs have AMD or Intel GPUs; to use this plugin you will need an older Mac with an Nvidia card, a desktop Mac Pro that has been upgraded with an Nvidia card, or a system with an external GPU.

* Added an option to "pause" the connection between SU and Octane. When paused, changes to the SU scene will not be copied to Octane; this allows you to make complex changes to the SU scene without the Octane scene being updated for every step, and then update it all at once when you unpause. There are toolbar buttons for the Pause and Rebuild actions.

* When you add a new camera view in SketchUp, a corresponding render target node will be created in Octane. The camera position and render settings are tracked separately for each render target, and will be saved with the SketchUp model in your .SKP file. When switching cameras, the corresponding render target is selected in the scene outline.

* There are no longer separate menu options for converting a SketchUp material to an Octane one, or for creating a new Octane material from scratch. These are no longer necessary since the new GUI window provides equivalent functionality. Converting a material from SketchUp to Octane is not a separate operation now; it happens automatically as soon as the material is used.

* All information about Octane materials is now saved with the SketchUp scene in the .SKP file. Unlike earlier versions, all texture graphics are included in this; textures are no longer saved in a separate directory. The saved scene also records any changes you make to the material nodes through the node graph editor. This means that you can now transfer a scene file to another computer, or send it to another user, without losing the texture information. However, it also means that scene files containing Octane plugin data are necessarily larger (sometimes much larger) than they were as plain SketchUp scenes, since they now contain all of the image files needed to reconstruct the Octane textures.

Requirements

Software (Windows version):

* SketchUp 2016 or 2017 for Windows x64; SketchUp 2017 is recommended
* Microsoft Windows 7, 8, 8.1, or 10 for x64
* The plugin is not compatible with any x86 (32-bit) version of SketchUp or Windows

Software (Mac version):

* SketchUp 2017 for MacOS
* MacOS 10.11 (El Capitan), 10.12 (Sierra), or 10.13 (High Sierra)
* The plugin is not compatible with any version of MacOS earlier than 10.11

Hardware:

* 64-bit Intel or AMD CPU
* One or more recent model Nvidia GPU cards
* Nvidia drivers 353.x or later; CUDA 8.0 support is required
* The plugin is not compatible with AMD or Intel GPUs

Installation

The installer has been completely rewritten. There are now separate installers for the SketchUp 2016 and 2017 versions of the plugin. You can install both versions on the same computer; they are now treated as separate applications. The Mac plugin is only compatible with SketchUp 2017.

We recommend uninstalling all previous versions of the SketchUp plugin before installing the latest version.

Please note that stable and test releases will not be identified by any special version numbers. Because of potential compatibility issues if different builds of the Octane engine are run on the same system, we believe it is more important to keep plugin version numbers synchronised with the corresponding build of the standalone Octane application and the Octane SDK. If you are having problems, the first thing you should check is that you do not have different versions of other Octane products installed.

Support Information

If you have a support issue, please provide the following information:
- Operating system (e.g. Windows 8.1 x64)
- CPU type (e.g. Intel Core i7)
- Amount of RAM
- Graphics cards - model (e.g. Nvidia GTX 690 with 4GB)
- Nvidia driver version (e.g. 365.10)
- SketchUp version (e.g. SketchUp Pro 2017 version 17.2.2555 64-bit)
- Skatter version (if you have it installed; e.g. Skatter 1.2.0)
- OctaneRender for SketchUp version (e.g. 3.07.0.14)

The most important part of resolving a problem is our being able to reproduce the problem, so please provide as much detail as possible!

Download Links

(For this test release, only plugins compatible with SketchUp 2017 are currently available.)

* Mac plugin for SketchUp 2017
* Windows plugin for SketchUp 2017

Earlier Changes

These changes were made in earlier 3.x releases of the plugin, and are still relevant in the latest release:

* Like the Octane 3 standalone version, the SketchUp plugin uses the new single sign-on system. You still need to have purchased a license for the SketchUp plugin, but it will now be checked automatically when you log in using your Otoy account credentials; you no longer need to keep track of user IDs and passwords for individual licenses. The new authorization management window is a modal dialog where the user can sign out and sign in. It also informs the you under which name you are signed in and if that sign-in was in offline or online mode. When a user signs out, all of your licenses which were activated on this computer will be deactivated. This requires that all these licenses are currently not in use by other Octane processes; if that is not the case the sign out will fail.

* Because most rendered images are now stored in your computer's main RAM instead of your video card's RAM, all Octane 3 applications, including the SketchUp plugin, will frequently use a good deal more memory than their Octane 2 equivalents, especially for high resolution renders. You should keep this in mind when upgrading.

* 3.03+ releases include experimental Pascal GPU support. Please note that we are still working on performance issues there.

* Support has been added for the Skatter plugin's Render Only mode.

Known Issues

We hope to fix these in a coming update:

* The Mac installer is not signed yet; we're still organising the details. For the moment, if Finder gives you an error when you run the installer, you can override this and run it by right-clicking on the installer and selecting Open from the popup menu.

* The toolbar buttons on the Mac plugin sometimes show incorrect pressed/unpressed states. This is a SketchUp bug that we will try to work around.

* The status bar text is not reliably updated in the Mac version. This is also due to a a SketchUp bug.

* Custom resolution in the material preview does not work.

* Once a texture has been copied from SketchUp to the Octane version of the scene, any changes made to either version of the material are not reflected in the other version. (This is a simplification applied to ensure the two versions of the material are handled correctly in this version of the plugin; we intend to add automatic transfer of changes from one to the other in future, where the different properties and behaviour of Octane and SketchUp materials allows it.)

* Re-applying the same texture after an undo may fail to work. This is a bug in SketchUp, not related to the Octane plugin.

* SketchUp may crash if plugins are frequently disabled and re-enabled while the Octane plugin is installed.

Release History

3.07.0.14 - Fully suppress scene conversion when no Octane window is open; automatic transfer of environment settings from Octane to SketchUp; fix material picker and LiveDB bugs.

3.06.4.10 - Better isolation when Octane is paused; bug fixes to Mac toolbar and installer.

3.06.4.5 - New Mac build.

3.06.4.0 - Highlight render target when changing camera; add pause and rebuild buttons.

3.06.2.5 - Track separate render targets for each SketchUp camera; add menu command to rebuild the Octane scene.

3.06.1.4 - Fix slow geometry transfer when render window is not open; add scene outliner to default view; save workspace layout with scene file.

3.06.1.2 - Initial public test release with the new user interface.
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Re: Octane Render for SketchUp 3.07.0.14 Test Release

Postby -rb- » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:41 am

-rb- Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:41 am
Fantastic news Cap thank you for your effort - let's take it for a spin everyone! 8-)

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Re: Octane Render for SketchUp 3.07.0.14 Test Release

Postby Jorgensen » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:56 pm

Jorgensen Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:56 pm
had my fist sketchup bugsplat, after only 3 minutes.

i had a simple floor, one component - and messing around with skatter, while octane render window has open.

i have now uninstalled all plugins, than octane and skatter. does anynone know what to do to test best possible stability?

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Re: Octane Render for SketchUp 3.07.0.14 Test Release

Postby bepeg4d » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:07 pm

bepeg4d Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:07 pm
Hi jorgensen,
please, avoid to use the Scatter plugin with Octane at the moment.
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Re: Octane Render for SketchUp 3.07.0.14 Test Release

Postby Jorgensen » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:50 am

Jorgensen Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:50 am
i'm having some issues here.

i experienced some stability problems with octane render, and therefore i decided to do a clean install of sketchup.

i therefore
- uninstalled sketchup
- downloaded and installed the latest version from sketchup.com
- downloaded and installed the latest version of octane render standalone
- downloaded and installed the latest version of octane render for sketchup
- downloaded and installed the latest version of my gfx driver to the version 3.88.00

now sketchup won't even start when octane plugin is installed. it says octaneRender loading... in the status line, and then "done", and sketchup then simply disappears with no warning or meassage

does anyone have some suggestions to how i can get it to work?

my signature should be updated, but please ask if you need any information.


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Re: Octane Render for SketchUp 3.07.0.14 Test Release

Postby bepeg4d » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:01 pm

bepeg4d Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:01 pm
Hi jorgensen,
what happen if you start the Standalone?
Please, try to downgrade the drivers to 382.33, performing a clean installation:
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Re: Octane Render for SketchUp 3.07.0.14 Test Release

Postby Jorgensen » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:27 am

Jorgensen Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:27 am
hi beppe

i tried a clean install of the recommended driver - but the problem still exists :-(

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Re: Octane Render for SketchUp 3.07.0.14 Test Release

Postby azen » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:27 pm

azen Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:27 pm
Hi Jorgensen,

Just to confirm - this has happened since to moving to 3.07, and you are experiencing issues of a similar nature in Octane Standalone - is this correct? If so, I will get one of the Core Developers involved in the troubleshooting of this issue.

As Beppe has alluded to - so long as the CUDA drivers are correct, your installation should be loading without incident.

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Re: Octane Render for SketchUp 3.07.0.14 Test Release

Postby Jorgensen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:00 pm

Jorgensen Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:00 pm
hi azen

standalone works fine.

is there somekind of log file i can look for?

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Re: Octane Render for SketchUp 3.07.0.14 Test Release

Postby bepeg4d » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:41 am

bepeg4d Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:41 am
Hi Jorgensen,
please, go to C:Users/Username/AppData/Roaming/Sketchup/Sketchup 2017/Sketchup/Plugins directory, and run "Uninstall_Octane.exe" application.
Then reinstall again the latest plugin, thanks.
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