thanks bepeg4d, i tried to change the scale into meter but that still could not solve the puzzle
but atleast it did brought me closer to the object which makes me easier work with
instead of searching for a dot and scroll that to my face
I'm using C4D RC14,octane 1.10 and 0.12b octaneexporter, everything works fine except
that i cant export the camera view and that will be paintful if i have to reposition the camera in octane again.
any help please