Beppe.... You da man! Thank you.
This does the trick - awesome!
Why didn't I think of this...

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thank you guys for this update
there is only one small thing i was hoping you will add it in 3 and the first thing i did in the stand alone i was try to light object with material Emission from both face normal now octane only do it from one side so is there is any hope for me to get this future ...