yep out of core is off only other variable i can see is i have had an external hard drive plugged in to my tower that keeps wanting to autoplay which i did not have plugged in before upgrades

Thank you man that seems to fix my initial problem on orbx but the next thing on the crashes i am wondering if it is something to do with mouse sensitivity and my dodgy right hand with rsi creeping in it seems to happen more when i am trying to select something like opening the view port

I'm not sure how to do that and maybe you don't want my adult graphic novel scenes either lol
i am wondering if it is to do with the python thing it seems to crash more checking and accessing the textures etc mainly when I go to open the view port but sometimes when i first open the plug in but it ...

It seems to be random but yes when opening the viewport, I can re boot poser load the scene hold my breath and it will render
I have managed four renders tonight in this scene each one different camera angles different size different poses etc each time one or two crashes then it will render ...

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Poser.exe
Application Version: 12.0.500.0
Application Timestamp: 608b0778
Fault Module Name: octane.dll
Fault Module Version: 10.2.15.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 606fa760
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset ...

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Poser.exe
Application Version: 12.0.500.0
Application Timestamp: 608b0778
Fault Module Name: octane.dll
Fault Module Version: 10.2.15.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 606fa760
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset ...

things are sort of stable at the moment but every time the pixel/samples update it flashes to not responding and back in a blink

still has not solved my query from the start of this thread

So I uninstalled octane from poser and re installed it restarted my computer as well, tried the scene again crashed twice but third time it rendered and no crash and did not lose the texture pathways talk about a lab rat going in circles

No- added a new character to the scene and crashed after losing the pathways to all the textures