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Difficulty navigating around my model
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:24 pm
by buggy
I have a head in Octane that is defaulting to a frontal view. I want to revolve around to the side of it so that I can render its profile.
However, using a three-button mouse I can only tilt the head from side to side or orbit over the top of the head to the back. I can get around to the side but then the view is on its side with the model is on its face (looking straight down). In 3DS Max I can hold Ctrl key to orbit to the side but in Octane Ctrl just moves the whole view around inside its frame (I'm not sure what the benefit of this is).
Can someone please tell me how I do this?
Thank you!
Re: Difficulty navigating around my model
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:18 pm
by matej
Camera navigation is awful in Octane

Which is somewhat ironic, since Octane is about interactivity &
finding the POV...
Tweak this vector parameters, when your camera "falls to the side", to straighten it up:
There are no ways (that I know of) to lock rotation axes or somewhat constrain the cam rotation to an axis
Re: Difficulty navigating around my model
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:21 pm
by buggy
Thank you Matej!
Using your directions I was able to tilt it back to the horizontal.
Refractive ought to add a key-mouse combination so we can revolve the camera around the focal point on the vertical axis without having to play with the camera settings.
Cheers,
James
Re: Difficulty navigating around my model
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:49 am
by matej
buggy wrote:Refractive ought to add a key-mouse combination so we can revolve the camera around the focal point on the vertical axis without having to play with the camera settings.
Yes and a real free 360 degrees navigation with the mouse, so you can reach any point or orientation with your mouse only. Maybe also a way to shift the rotation center from the current focal point to the camera center and back, so you can rotate in world space & camera local space. And a way to constrain rotation to a single axis (in global & local space)...
Re: Difficulty navigating around my model
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:02 am
by steveps3
I really don't know why we do not have simply up/down/left/right controls which you can do using the arrow keys. You could then press shift to tilt. in the same direction.
I am getting better at moving he camera around but it really is a struggle to get it exactly where you want it. Something RS need to work on.
Re: Difficulty navigating around my model
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:37 am
by vimaxus
more than a year and a half ago a few of us complained about it and radiance said
this.
I understand it was not to be expected in the next release but for such a basic feature, essential to the interactivity which was the main sales pitch when he started, I find it takes a ridiculous amount of time.
Re: Difficulty navigating around my model
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:09 am
by matej
Camera navigation has been debated quite a lot. Even a WASD camera would be better than the current "drunken walrus" type, but why use four additional keys if there are camera implementations that give you total freedom with only your mouse (and the selection of a pivot point, of course - something we already have in Octane).
Take the camera implementation in Blender - trackball or turntable, it doesn't matter, both give 100% non-locking freedom of movement around your objects & scene, with the mouse only. You need keys only to define the locking of movement & rotation axes. You can't get stuck, like in Octane. And the constant jumping to the camera tab to slide some vector parameters becomes annoying very fast and distracts you from your real work...
Re: Difficulty navigating around my model
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:01 pm
by gabrielefx
Octane needs walkthrough camera option, arrow up,down, left, right
Re: Difficulty navigating around my model
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:41 pm
by essessell
space navigator support !
Re: Difficulty navigating around my model
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:06 pm
by ROUBAL
When the camera is very close to the center of the scene, it becomes almost impossible to move.