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Orthographic Camera - Focal Depth issue

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 11:07 pm
by speltrong
Hi

Focus Distance/Focal Depth appears to be incorrectly linked to the zoom factor in both the Thinlens and Universal cameras in Orthographic modes. This happens in the Live Viewer only (not in C4D's viewport). In Standalone, the Focal Depth does not affect the zoom factor (and it shouldn't). Having these linked makes it very difficult to manually focus while in Orthographic mode in C4D.

Please either unlink these settings or put in a checkbox (set on by default) to ignore focal depth if it needs to be that way for backwards compatibility or something.

Attached are screenshots and source files. I'm using C4D 2024.4 and Octane 2023.1.3 on Windows 11.

Thanks,
-s
Standalone Focal Depth at 2000 - no change in zoom.
Standalone Focal Depth at 2000 - no change in zoom.
Standalone Focal Depth at 1000 - no change in zoom.
Standalone Focal Depth at 1000 - no change in zoom.
C4D Focal Depth at 2000 - no change in zoom.
C4D Focal Depth at 2000 - no change in zoom.
C4D Focal Depth at 1000 - CHANGE IN ZOOM - LV ONLY
C4D Focal Depth at 1000 - CHANGE IN ZOOM - LV ONLY

Re: Orthographic Camera - Focal Depth issue

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:51 pm
by aoktar
Have you tried to do what you want with Isometric option of camera?
Things are more complicated in plugins to simulate/translate. We have to modify the values to obtain what we want to do. So please try Isometric parameter in camera without enabling orthographic option.

Re: Orthographic Camera - Focal Depth issue

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:39 pm
by speltrong
Hi

It does work properly in Isometric mode, but if you want to render a side/front/top view (or any arbitrary angle) with depth of field, you have to rotate the entire scene to line up with the camera (since the isometric camera's rotation is locked at the isometric angle). That's difficult and messes with the lighting.

Octane respects C4D's zoom setting, so can you just disable the focal depth link and use zoom only for making objects larger/smaller?

Thanks again,
-s

Re: Orthographic Camera - Focal Depth issue

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:18 am
by aoktar
speltrong wrote:Hi

It does work properly in Isometric mode, but if you want to render a side/front/top view (or any arbitrary angle) with depth of field, you have to rotate the entire scene to line up with the camera (since the isometric camera's rotation is locked at the isometric angle). That's difficult and messes with the lighting.

Octane respects C4D's zoom setting, so can you just disable the focal depth link and use zoom only for making objects larger/smaller?

Thanks again,
-s
At the current state making some changes are a bit hard, but I'll try to bring another solutions for this.

Re: Orthographic Camera - Focal Depth issue

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:20 am
by speltrong
ok, thank you!