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Render regions with alpha has white outline

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:04 am
by timAugustine
Hi all,

My scene has a grassy foreground and some hills in the background. I'm rendering the grass separately with the alpha turned on. When I overlay the grassy layer on top of the mountains, I'm getting this weird white outline. Is there a setting I'm not aware of right now?

Render with the white outline
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Here are the settings I'm using:
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Settings
Thanks in advance for any response!

Re: Render regions with alpha has white outline

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:06 am
by Andreas_Resch
That seems to me an Premultiplied Alpha problem. I use an Alpha Convert node in the Compositor to fix that.

Re: Render regions with alpha has white outline

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:59 am
by timAugustine
Thank you! I will try this tomorrow

Re: Render regions with alpha has white outline

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:40 pm
by timAugustine
Hi,

Is this something from a version of blender without Octane? When I try to bring up the covert alpha node I keep getting errors with the word Octane all over it. Even after I select Cycles as the renderer. Is there a way to do this within octane settings?

Re: Render regions with alpha has white outline

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:55 pm
by Andreas_Resch
Works in the custom build 28.9 Prime version.

Re: Render regions with alpha has white outline

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:33 am
by timAugustine
I must have done something wrong. It works for me now. And it also fixed the issue for me. Thanks again!

Re: Render regions with alpha has white outline

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:52 pm
by timAugustine
Hi, I have another question about this! Is it possible to set the output images to be premultipled directly in Octane? Just curious!

Thanks

Re: Render regions with alpha has white outline

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:16 pm
by skientia
timAugustine wrote:Hi, I have another question about this! Is it possible to set the output images to be premultipled directly in Octane? Just curious!

Thanks
Absoutely. Associated-encoding (the proper term) should be available somewhere, perhaps in the export tab, is it?
In Standalone it is located in all export tabs, not in the kernel settings.

Re: Render regions with alpha has white outline

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:28 pm
by timAugustine
I didn't find it under blender export, but I did find it under the octane export subsection. It was available only for exr export options (not for png)

Re: Render regions with alpha has white outline

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:07 pm
by skientia
PNG doesn't support associated "alpha". TIFF does, hence the strongly recommended and viable alternative to EXR when not suitable in certain situations where the latter (EXR) isn't supported, available or viable.
More information here.