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How do I render out AI DeNoised beauty?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:25 pm
by feathers632
I must be dumb.

Cinema 4d, Render to picture viewer... Ticked any boxes relevant to rendering beauty passes but all it does is render out a standard non-AI grainy image!

Octane image viewer shows the AI DeNoise image...

Re: How do I render out AI DeNoised beauty?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:33 pm
by aoktar
What's up with manual? It's describing the whole methods.

Re: How do I render out AI DeNoised beauty?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:51 pm
by feathers632
aoktar wrote:What's up with manual? It's describing the whole methods.
You are useless as always. Thanks flappy.

Re: How do I render out AI DeNoised beauty?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:34 pm
by frankmci
feathers632 wrote:I must be dumb.

Cinema 4d, Render to picture viewer... Ticked any boxes relevant to rendering beauty passes but all it does is render out a standard non-AI grainy image!

Octane image viewer shows the AI DeNoise image...
Don't worry, it's not just you. It was particularly confusing when you had to use the Octane Render Passes, but Ahmet has recently added a handy, but easily missed checkbox in Render Settings/Octane Renderer/Settings: just check the, "Use Denoised Beauty Pass," box (right below the Render Buffer Type dropdown) and assuming you have denoising set up in Octane Settings/CameraImager/Denoiser or your Octane Camera tag, you should be all set.

- F

Re: How do I render out AI DeNoised beauty?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:16 pm
by feathers632
frankmci wrote:
feathers632 wrote:I must be dumb.

Cinema 4d, Render to picture viewer... Ticked any boxes relevant to rendering beauty passes but all it does is render out a standard non-AI grainy image!

Octane image viewer shows the AI DeNoise image...
Don't worry, it's not just you. It was particularly confusing when you had to use the Octane Render Passes, but Ahmet has recently added a handy, but easily missed checkbox in Render Settings/Octane Renderer/Settings: just check the, "Use Denoised Beauty Pass," box (right below the Render Buffer Type dropdown) and assuming you have denoising set up in Octane Settings/CameraImager/Denoiser or your Octane Camera tag, you should be all set.

- F
Thanks for your help! That worked. Rendering denoised to picture viewer now.

Re: How do I render out AI DeNoised beauty?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:37 pm
by aoktar
Searching the manual takes 5 second for "AI denoiser"
http://www.aoktar.com/octane/AIDenoiser.html

Re: How do I render out AI DeNoised beauty?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:18 pm
by frankmci
aoktar wrote:Searching the manual takes 5 second for "AI denoiser"
http://www.aoktar.com/octane/AIDenoiser.html
Ahmet, can you get the main documentation link updated, now that 4.0 is out? I'm sure there are a lot of users who don't spend time here on the forums that could really use it.

https://docs.otoy.com/Cinema4DH/C4DPluginManual.htm

Re: How do I render out AI DeNoised beauty?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:37 pm
by aoktar
frankmci wrote:
aoktar wrote:Searching the manual takes 5 second for "AI denoiser"
http://www.aoktar.com/octane/AIDenoiser.html
Ahmet, can you get the main documentation link updated, now that 4.0 is out? I'm sure there are a lot of users who don't spend time here on the forums that could really use it.

https://docs.otoy.com/Cinema4DH/C4DPluginManual.htm
It's updated. I'm keeping latest manual on my server because some reasons.
In plugin, a lot of HELP buttons can't remember how much in every octane nodes. They are directed to latest manual. And It's really saddening nobody click to this. See image.

Re: How do I render out AI DeNoised beauty?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:15 pm
by frankmci
aoktar wrote: It's updated. I'm keeping latest manual on my server because some reasons.
In plugin, a lot of HELP buttons can't remember how much in every octane nodes. They are directed to latest manual. And It's really saddening nobody click to this. See image.
Thanks for updating the link.

On our machines, the Otoy icon help buttons still do not work, leading to a blank window, like this. I have to admit it's been a while since I checked to see if they were working again. Good to know the menu based help is, although a bit less direct.

Edit: Correction, the Octane Tag based Otoy icon help dos not work, but the one found in an Octane material does.

Re: How do I render out AI DeNoised beauty?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:43 pm
by Hatsize7
Sorry to bump this thread. I can save the denoised beauty pass. My problem is with its alpha. It looks like it's burnt in.
If it's 8bit JPG, the background is black,if it's PNG, it's transparent, but then there is a black contour around the object.
So what I would like to have is the denoised beauty pass looking like the normal beauty pass, with background, so I can blend them in post, with the alpha channel saved in a separate file (used for both passes if needed)
The only way to work with this now is to use matting/defringe (1px) in PS or refine edge in AE on the denoised beauty pass.

I'm using a simple sun object to light an exterior scene. Beauty pass is fine. Passes are saved, etc, just the denoised beauty has alpha clipped. Any ideas?
I spent an hour reading the forum to look if this is a limitation or I'm doing it wrong, but I still don't have an answer.
Thanks to anyone who can give me a hint!