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Mograph Time offset with Step Effector
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:25 am
by Ghostmize
Hey guys,
I can't figure out how to make Octane C4D plugin "read" the Time-Step effector.
I have two different setups, it doesn't work in neither:
1- I use the emission node on an object which is in a cloner.
Then animate the power of the emission from 0-100 & back to 0 on the Octane material.
Then using the Step effector/ offseting the time - so the lights are in a chase mode within the cloner.
Pretty ordinary, however doesn't work with the plugin.
All the cloners run the keyframes at the same time.
2- I use a JPG sequence as the emission texture (for example a TV screen),
putting the TV in a cloner, then using the Step effector to offset the time.
nothing happens...all cloners show the same animation.
Any way to get it done?
Thanks!
Elad.
Re: Mograph Time offset with Step Effector
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:37 am
by aoktar
there is a parameter in lighttag to get intensity from light object. can't check name atm. it should provide a connection through light.
Re: Mograph Time offset with Step Effector
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:08 pm
by Ghostmize
Hey,
I'm not using a light,
but in 1 case I'm using a regular object(mesh) with emission in the actual material settings - texture emission.
in the 2nd case, I'm using an Image texture sequence to to emit the light through the texture emission node.
I assume maybe what I need isn't even possible via normal C4D shaders...
Imagine you have a JPG sequence as material for a TV screen in a cloner.
Then you want to time-offset (or randomize) between the clones, using the same single JPG sequence.
how would you do that?
Re: Mograph Time offset with Step Effector
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:19 pm
by aoktar
Put a c4d scene without octane setup(with standard materials) and let's check how we do in octane.
Also mograph colors are supported with cloners. It may help.
Re: Mograph Time offset with Step Effector
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:52 pm
by mbutler2
Do you have render instances turned off?
Did you get it to work just in C4D with C4D shaders? Or maybe step effector just works on animation not materials? I'm curious.
Re: Mograph Time offset with Step Effector
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:58 pm
by mbutler2
I'm very interested in knowing if you figure this out. I tried something similar a while back and found it needlessly difficult to do. Especially since in AfterEffects & Particular its so easy to offset an image sequence randomly on particles.
Maybe there's something I'm missing, but I think its hard to do in C4D anyway (not even Octane).
I think I was trying MultiShader (which I think Octane doesn't support by the way.) And still I couldn't find a way to say "Offset randomly by 15 frames for each clone". I found some weird work around using a random gradient color to drive frame offset, but that wouldn't let the image sequence play through normally, just ramp back and forth among its frames.
In the end, I think I manually made 10 different image sequences in After Effects, same frames, but each having their own offsets. Then made 10 identical pieces of C4D geometry, and put 10 different materials on them with my 10 different sequences. Then the cloner duplicated those 10 around. In my case, 10 different offsets was enough to make it all look random enough.
Brute force randomness, I guess. But what a ridiculous way to go. If someone knows a better way to do it (just in C4D but also in Octane if there's a way,) please share and make me feel stupid!
Re: Mograph Time offset with Step Effector
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:15 pm
by Karantir
Has anyone found a way to control through effectors in a cloner — by starting a sequence in octane? Is there such a way?
Re: Mograph Time offset with Step Effector
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:49 am
by bepeg4d
Hi,
if you set your MoGraph cloner to Render or Multi Instance mode, you can use any kind of effector with Fields, and use an Instance Color node in your material, connected with the Cloner object:
ciao Beppe