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businesshouse liechtenstein

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:16 am
by huebner
there are some pictures of my last architectural project. it`s for a competition. because i was short in time (most of the effort was concepting the building) there is absolutely no photoshop and the rendertimes were quite short. the rendertimes would be the main reason for the noise in some areas.
its not really finalized but i hope for the actual state of the project the pictures will meet demands ;-)

grüsse aus der schweiz!

Re: businesshouse liechtenstein

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:27 am
by ChrisVis
Hello Huebner!

I am really impressed with the outdoor pictures!
AP08-11 look like real photos, especially when looking at it the first time!

IP10-1 is also very well done, but where does the hotspot on the right wall come from?

AP01 seems to need some texture tweaking for the concrete, maybe just darken it a bit or a little gradient? It looks a bit unnatural cause it is too flat, especially in the bottom behind the shrubs. I think you know how to tweak this. Would you mind to share your texture settings for doing a gradient on it, because I am new to octane and didn`t get too much into materials yet.

thnx a lot and keep sharing your good work,
greets from germany

Re: businesshouse liechtenstein

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:37 pm
by huebner
hello chrisvis

thnx for your input.

your are right i could get more out of materials and textures. what do you mean with gradient? texturing was made with a simple image of concrete, maybe i forgot to add a bump. perhaps thats the reason why i looks to flat.
all the pictures (about 30) were made (camera, lightsetting & rendered) in about 24hours (kepler test build and 2 x gtx 680). hope a real version for gtx 680 will come out soon. texturing was made in cinema 4d. i didn`t spent more time on materials afterwards in octane.

ip10-1 was the only picture which rendered a bit longer, overnight means about 4hours. no time for sleep a this moment ;-)
dont ask me where the hotspot comes from? maybe there is a child in the kitchen on the left playing with his torch...?
i really dont know but i think the hotspot looks interesting and i didn`t care.

here are some more pictures, you can see whole the 3d model in axo 01.

Re: businesshouse liechtenstein

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:34 pm
by ChrisVis
Hi Huebner,

with gradient I mean, that when looking at a concrete wall of a building in reality, (Picture AP01) the top of the Wall would definetly be a bit more brighter than the bottom of the wall next to the floor... maybe because of ambient occlusion?
I don`t know, if you would achieve this with bump mapping.
In Cinema 4D I use a normal black to white gradient in the diffuse channel, change it from U to V or diagonal, and mix it in 10%, that gives a bit more of a volumetric look, but maybe not the best way to do it.
I dont know, if this is possible with octane, maybe with the mixed material? Or you need to go into the nodes, I think there you have endless material setting capabilities, but I didnt try it yet. Just read the manual once and will have to learn a lot.

Nice to see you are working with cinema 4D too.
Did you do any animation with the plugin yet?
Would you mind to share some workflow tips?

It is also interesting to see you have 2 gtx 680. Theres a new kepler test build out since today, 2.58c. Did you try it yet? How much is the performance improvement?
I am going to invest in a GPU Rip, but am not sure at the moment if i should go with the gtx580s 3GB to have good performance right now, where I need it, or to go with GTX680s to be future proof, but have less performance today, and even maybe in the future or at least not before the next 4 month?

Re: businesshouse liechtenstein

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:44 pm
by huebner
hi chrisvis

whow, i didn't know of the new keppler release. thx for the tip, cool! try it next week.
i bought two gtx680 and was surprised afterwards when i found out that keppler is not supported. i was too fast once again...

if you ask me in octane all this light-support texturing is not needed anymore. looks physically correct & realistic without doing this. there is another reason why the wall in ap01 is bright on the bottom. it goes further down to the ramp of the garage.

Re: businesshouse liechtenstein

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:11 pm
by ChrisVis
Hi huebner,

thanx for the reply, your answer to ap01 makes sense.
Yeah the whole Kepler stuff is starting to get a bit frustrating... hope there will be a huge performance boost soon or at least, when Cuda 5 comes out.

Re: businesshouse liechtenstein

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:29 pm
by mbetke
Nice stuff going on here. For the noise on indoor you could do some gilm-effects with cross-processing in photoshop so it looks a bit artistic and like one of those instagram edited pictures. ;)

You only used skylight with your cut-out mountains and a sun for exteriours? or also a HDRI image?

Grüße aus Deutschland! :)

Re: businesshouse liechtenstein

Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 12:19 am
by huebner
hi mbetke

thanx for input. i like artistic look! see below ;-)
...or maybe a longer rendertime would clear up the pictures....

i didn`t use hdri, but i normally build up some neighborhood-buildings. this makes a similar effect, and also realistic reflection in windows & shadows on and beside the new building.
for me as an architect skylight is perfect because i get a idea of light situation. all in realtime at any date and any time. sometimes if necessary i can adapt the concept of the building.

the background is a photo of the building site with a simple alpha. do you know if i could do the same thing with a hdri of the whole surrounding, and then load it in occtane? and is it possible to combine it with skyligt. i think it is not possible.

Re: businesshouse liechtenstein

Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:48 am
by mbetke
I love shot E1. Where do you get the photo frame?

Re: businesshouse liechtenstein

Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:53 am
by huebner
....simple app for iphone ;)

cause i was too lazy i just took photos of my screen.