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I see new versions are available has their been any progress having the data stored in the archicad objects?

Hi John

Implementing this is not trivial, and I want to make sure the current version is robust before making these changes. So once the issues Jeroen has reported are fixed I'll look at it.

Paul

Paul,

I have been doing a few jobs using the proxy system as it stands now and find the workflow a little cumbersome, I was wondering if there has been any progress on controling the proxy object via the archicad object?

I alt-click in archicad a lot to place copies of objects and can have them automatically sit on top of a mesh using the gravity tool, Alt clicking the archicad object removes the proxy settings/detail, i can drag a copy but i then have to adjust its height each time (rather time consuming). if the proxy details are held in the AC object then its no problem. i could also change 20 objects a once not 1 by 1 as i have to now.

Also Is it possible to have the scatter system pick up specific points on a mesh so i can control where the objects are placed ? I seem to get areas on meshes where there is nothing and others where there are truck loads

Keep up the good work

John

Hi John

Jeroen still have an issue with proxies which I need to resolve - then I'll look at what can be done to speed up your workflow. Thanks for detailing your workflow - that helps a lot.

Also Is it possible to have the scatter system pick up specific points on a mesh so i can control where the objects are placed ? I seem to get areas on meshes where there is nothing and others where there are truck loads

The distribution is totally random - so unfortunately you are going to get some clumps due to the random distibution. I've thought a lot about how to resolve that (ie. not allowing an instance within a certain distance of another instance) but it's a complex solution. The Poser version allows a map to be loaded, so you can distribute instances more in some areas and less in others. But that still has some "clumps" due to the random nature.

If you want to scatter uniformly (ie. in a grid) - Jeroen has a spreadsheet that could be modified to do that. I've also thought there could be another button "Generate Uniform" where you feed it the number of columns and rows and it generates a grid of isntances on the target topography.

In summary - there are a number of approaches, none of which are simple to implement, but all of which will find there way into the plugin in the fullness of time

Paul

John - something for you to think about.....instead of placing 100 copies of an Object that has a tree OBJ proxy attached - why not do the opposite. Place 100 copies of a normal Object (each instance could be scaled and rotated), and then calculate a transform csv file from all the occurrences of that Object (to do this, you'd need to export to a format which would include the location, rotation and scale of each instance of the Object you placed - you'll know better than I how this could be done). Then place an Object, assign the tree OBJ proxy to it, and then assign the generated CSV file for scattering. That way if you want to use a different tree OBJ file, you just have to load it into one Object.

Paul

New version posted - pls see http://render.otoy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=34210.

Paul,

I have been doing a few jobs using the proxy system as it stands now and find the workflow a little cumbersome, I was wondering if there has been any progress on controling the proxy object via the archicad object?

I alt-click in archicad a lot to place copies of objects and can have them automatically sit on top of a mesh using the gravity tool, Alt clicking the archicad object removes the proxy settings/detail, i can drag a copy but i then have to adjust its height each time (rather time consuming). if the proxy details are held in the AC object then its no problem. i could also change 20 objects a once not 1 by 1 as i have to now.

Also Is it possible to have the scatter system pick up specific points on a mesh so i can control where the objects are placed ? I seem to get areas on meshes where there is nothing and others where there are truck loads

Hi John

I have done a little more work on this. Would being able to select multiple Objects at once, and assign a single OBJ file, scale, rotation to all of them simultaneously resolve your issue?

Paul

face_off wrote: Hi John
I have done a little more work on this. Would being able to select multiple Objects at once, and assign a single OBJ file, scale, rotation to all of them simultaneously resolve your issue?
Paul

Multiple selection would be another bomb of wow on this plugin
Greetz, Jeroen

Hi John

I have done a little more work on this. Would being able to select multiple Objects at once, and assign a single OBJ file, scale, rotation to all of them simultaneously resolve your issue?

Paul

Paul,

That would be a great help and would go a long way to resolving my workflow issue, but I would still like to "control" that information via the archicad object ( it gives me an option to code the desired settings into an archicad object) just a smoother workflow for me

Keep up the good work

John

John - new version available with some of your requested features. Pls see http://render.otoy.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 58#p150258.

Paul