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Re: Cinema 4D version 2019.1-RC3_r2 (Test build) - 16.08.2019

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:44 pm
by aoktar
divasoft wrote:All scattered cubes in viewport are gray and scatter use only first object for scattering when i use cinema effectors with octane scatter.
Well thanks! What's your question?

Re: Cinema 4D version 2019.1-RC3_r2 (Test build) - 16.08.2019

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:49 pm
by nejck
divasoft wrote:
desire wrote:
divasoft wrote:Only one 8k displacement freeze cinema as hell. How i can work?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Jfets ... Lu-XGGX6ZO
don't need to use 8k map and displacement to get very long time response.
Even in a quite simple scene there is enough start working with mat that have 4k tex to get response around 4-5 sec after changing any parameter.
If a mat has several 4k tex - response time is about 10-12 sec after any changing. (ANY!)
8K tex I'm using at the moment ONLY for the final render. To work with a scene without hangs I used a bunch of needed textures in a 2K resolution ((
Standalone works fine even 16k textures without freezing. 3ds max works fine even 8k textures without freezing.
I am glad for you that you use 2k textures, but this is not the right way. The fact that you are used to performing numerous unnecessary actions does not mean that this is correct.
The developer should optimize the software, and not force the user to do tricks
For what its worth, I'm noticing something similar on my end. Hope we can figure out what is going, would be greatly appreciated :)

Re: Cinema 4D version 2019.1-RC3_r2 (Test build) - 16.08.2019

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:02 pm
by divasoft
aoktar wrote:
divasoft wrote:All scattered cubes in viewport are gray and scatter use only first object for scattering when i use cinema effectors with octane scatter.
Well thanks! What's your question?
It's not a question. This is what needs to be fixed.

Re: Cinema 4D version 2019.1-RC3_r2 (Test build) - 16.08.2019

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:07 pm
by aoktar
divasoft wrote:
aoktar wrote:
divasoft wrote:All scattered cubes in viewport are gray and scatter use only first object for scattering when i use cinema effectors with octane scatter.
Well thanks! What's your question?
It's not a question. This is what needs to be fixed.
There's not any problem for rendering, just viewport issue. I don't have any plans to update the scatter object

Re: Cinema 4D version 2019.1-RC3_r2 (Test build) - 16.08.2019

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:13 pm
by Iceman9
divasoft wrote:
aoktar wrote:
divasoft wrote:All scattered cubes in viewport are gray and scatter use only first object for scattering when i use cinema effectors with octane scatter.
Well thanks! What's your question?
It's not a question. This is what needs to be fixed.
You are a moron and a child. If you were competent you wouldn't waste the devs time with nonsense requests like this. Your unending wave of brainless requests and attacks are hurting other users. The devs need time and energy to do their jobs.

STOP IT

Re: Cinema 4D version 2019.1-RC3_r2 (Test build) - 16.08.2019

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:11 pm
by aoktar
divasoft wrote:Hi. I work with displacement. And octane is constantly crashes. Every now and again. I have to restart cinema about 30-40 times per hour. Failure occurs at random times. It's not a problem with devices, same things happens on different hardware configurations. Sometimes just moving a node in the node editor is enough. A little bit more stable displacement in 4.05, where failure occurs about 10 times per hour. Despite the fact that everything works perfectly in the standalone. I think that you, Aoktar, need to completely rework the part of code related to displacement. This part makes the application extremely unstable. Work becomes almost impossible.
Please do not need to ask me for test scenes. If you try to test at least a little yourself what you created, you will immediately see how unstable the displacement works. A year ago, I told you that it was necessary to hire a tester on the staff.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xc1Db ... fj7clAtS5a
I don't see any CRASHES here. It's just waiting the calculation in the renderer. Green "UPDATING...." text on top of LV that shows it's waiting some calculation on the RENDERER. Try to decrease subdivisions and displacement resolution and try to don't use PNG/JPG for images. Also disable material/opengl previews for faster editing. Or BE SURE that "Texture caching" option is ENABLED in settings.

Re: Cinema 4D version 2019.1-RC3_r2 (Test build) - 16.08.2019

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:08 am
by jayroth
Hi Ahmet,

I use PNG files all the time. Is there a link to explain why that is not a good idea?

Thanks.

Re: Cinema 4D version 2019.1-RC3_r2 (Test build) - 16.08.2019

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:16 am
by divasoft
aoktar wrote:
divasoft wrote:Hi. I work with displacement. And octane is constantly crashes. Every now and again. I have to restart cinema about 30-40 times per hour. Failure occurs at random times. It's not a problem with devices, same things happens on different hardware configurations. Sometimes just moving a node in the node editor is enough. A little bit more stable displacement in 4.05, where failure occurs about 10 times per hour. Despite the fact that everything works perfectly in the standalone. I think that you, Aoktar, need to completely rework the part of code related to displacement. This part makes the application extremely unstable. Work becomes almost impossible.
Please do not need to ask me for test scenes. If you try to test at least a little yourself what you created, you will immediately see how unstable the displacement works. A year ago, I told you that it was necessary to hire a tester on the staff.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xc1Db ... fj7clAtS5a
I don't see any CRASHES here. It's just waiting the calculation in the renderer. Green "UPDATING...." text on top of LV that shows it's waiting some calculation on the RENDERER. Try to decrease subdivisions and displacement resolution and try to don't use PNG/JPG for images. Also disable material/opengl previews for faster editing. Or BE SURE that "Texture caching" option is ENABLED in settings.
Yes, error popup not appear, but if i will waiting for calculation i will be wait infinite. I was try to wait 2 times for 10 min and nothing happened. In standalone this operations works on the fly.

Re: Cinema 4D version 2019.1-RC3_r2 (Test build) - 16.08.2019

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:34 am
by aoktar
divasoft wrote: Yes, error popup not appear, but if i will waiting for calculation i will be wait infinite. I was try to wait 2 times for 10 min and nothing happened. In standalone this operations works on the fly.
I don't think so! Send us your comparison scenes and lets check what you do. Standalone has not to generate previews on every operations, don't forget that. It's a big task for plugins.
And don't forget to apply my advices. These will help it to work faster.

Re: Cinema 4D version 2019.1-RC3_r2 (Test build) - 16.08.2019

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:33 pm
by aoktar
jayroth wrote:Hi Ahmet,

I use PNG files all the time. Is there a link to explain why that is not a good idea?

Thanks.
Png is good for storage with small size but decompression time is longer than tiff/psd/etc...