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Hi- beautiful work!

I have to say though, I liked the originals best. The first renders were gorgeous...now it just seems too busy, and faked. Less is often more...and all those vines/etc look kinda silly. In reality, those would never get up there...not that I've seen anywho, except in a tropical jungle and then EVERYTHING would be covered and entangled in them.

Current vines remind me of those old-grammy-potted-plants you see hanging from ceilings in badly decorated hotels...especially the way they creep out and over the edge of the "bowl" (top of carousel).

Water on ground does bug me too...seems like such sudden change between dry/wet. Too bumpy as well...unless the ground was seriously warped, seems odd.

Lastly, DOF really bugs me, things look miniature, which brings this into the cliche realm that so many other Octane renders are in. Small objects, super small DOF, lots of blur...looks pretty, for sure, but what really impressed me about your original post was how great it looked WITHOUT any of that over-the-top DOF that others' are using.

Oh, and I liked the sullen, overcast blue/grey lighting before...had a real emotion that was great

Just my thoughts, don't mean to sound critical, just in a rush for time, and speaking straightforward. I have nothing even vaguely as good as your work, this is really amazing, and so i feel compelled to give my even MORE honest opinion

good luck!

yahodahan wrote:Hi- beautiful work!

I have to say though, I liked the originals best. The first renders were gorgeous...now it just seems too busy, and faked. Less is often more...and all those vines/etc look kinda silly. In reality, those would never get up there...not that I've seen anywho, except in a tropical jungle and then EVERYTHING would be covered and entangled in them.

Current vines remind me of those old-grammy-potted-plants you see hanging from ceilings in badly decorated hotels...especially the way they creep out and over the edge of the "bowl" (top of carousel).

Water on ground does bug me too...seems like such sudden change between dry/wet. Too bumpy as well...unless the ground was seriously warped, seems odd.

Lastly, DOF really bugs me, things look miniature, which brings this into the cliche realm that so many other Octane renders are in. Small objects, super small DOF, lots of blur...looks pretty, for sure, but what really impressed me about your original post was how great it looked WITHOUT any of that over-the-top DOF that others' are using.

Oh, and I liked the sullen, overcast blue/grey lighting before...had a real emotion that was great

Just my thoughts, don't mean to sound critical, just in a rush for time, and speaking straightforward. I have nothing even vaguely as good as your work, this is really amazing, and so i feel compelled to give my even MORE honest opinion

good luck!

Thanks for a very direct and honest criticism.
I must say that I agree with much of what you say, but the reality is that if I follow the recommendations that people give would be doing and undoing, because the taste of each is very personal.
As for the ivy, don't know if it could do what I have (although I have seen grow up in a really amazing forms), I am no botanist, nor intend to recreate something as might exist in reality, or that could be photographed, just something that looks realistic but seeing it, you was clear that only is a person's mind, is what I love about the computer graphics. Another is to change things does not have to mean that the above is lost, as in this case, I can put the original lighting on the new version, etc. .. and thus have different views of the same thing.

On the ground, surely you're right and you're not the first person to comment me, although I don't know why can not be formed these mounds of sand, may try to reduce them.

About DOF there are opinions for all the tastes and I have increasingly less clear

With the illumination I must say that my original idea is the one that seems more suitable to me, although concerning a Lighting Challenge they recommended to me that introduce something of sun and it is what I have tried, although without working hdr in linux no result is definitive and as soon as it is solved I will make two versions.

Anyway, thank you very much for being so direct and your opinion will help me to see the scene differently.

By the way, radiance, if you read this, you think that could put this scene in the fermi competition? and of being thus, will be extended the term until it is available beta 2,1 with hdr fixed in linux?

Cheers

you can put it in the competition sure, you can submit whatever you want.
we do take into account factors like if you made the model yourself or not.

we'll see what we can do for the competition, it will depend on when beta2.1 is ready.

Radiance

Thanks radiance

Well, as it is not clear if the deadline will be extended I will put some images made with this version and if the beta2.1 is at time will render again (hopefully not change the file format).

Here I put another version with the water drying up and some other changes. What do you think?