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Re: Which pc/workstation for Octane?
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:58 pm
by Joe Piler
Ah ok,
Thought the Titan Black was the fastest to get at this moment.
My scenes are not bigger than 6GB...
I will look for the 780's as well.
Thanks!
Re: Which pc/workstation for Octane?
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:18 pm
by haknslash
Oops didn't catch the Black. I thought you meant regular Titan. I blame NVidia and their silly marketing

. Based off benchmarks in my other rendering app (Bunkspeed) the Titan is slower than the 780 Ti. The only real advantage it has is the increased VRAM. The Titan to me is sort of a niche card in that it's only really needed if you need the VRAM. The Titan Black is basically a 780 Ti's power + Titan's VRAM. So you have to ask yourself is the added cost worth it? If your scenese don't exceed 3 GB then why bother paying for something you'll never see the advantage of? Just my opinion.
I'm not sure if anyone has done a benchmark of 2 780's vs 1 Titan Black but on paper you would have 5760 CUDA cores and 3 GB of VRAM for a little more $ than one Titan Black that costs over a grand and gives you 2880 CUDA cores and 6 GB VRAM. This is a nifty little website that compiles spec sheet data so it's easy to see the differences between cards...have fun
http://www.hwcompare.com/17482/geforce- ... e-gtx-780/
Re: Which pc/workstation for Octane?
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:13 pm
by Joe Piler
I heard some nasty stories about the GTX 780 when making architectural visuals.
It seems that the 780 creates artifacts, or wrong pixels every 1000 pixels.
And when making a 3000x2000 render, there are lots af artifacts.
The Titan Black doesn't do this.
But I didn't tested this myself...
Re: Which pc/workstation for Octane?
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:43 pm
by glimpse
seems a nice rig, Joe,
Personally I wouldn't take third SSD for data & probably rather pick one or two HDDs (one for data & one for back-up).
If You have some monitor, I'd use it for a while. There are new monitors coming and that will crush the prices soon..or some tempting 4k models soon be out for affordable price.
as for TitanBlack go only if You are looking to jump seriously into GPU, other than that 780ti will be cheaper, but based on the same card, only has less of vram (there's no use having something You don't take any advantage of)
This build should be on par with BOXX You've reffered - they also use 6core with x79 mobo agresively OC'ed to 4.5Ghz (if I remember good under AIO liquid cooling unit too).
The difference will be Your choise of GPU - Boxx usually use PRO cards as they are aiming engineers, vfx artist who make use of these features PRO cards have to offer.
In Your case You should list Your software & take a good look wheather there are any optimised drivers. In that case maybe having lower-end quadro for the screen might benefit Your needs.
apart from expressed view the last thing, minor one. =) Personally I don't like active coolers on motherboards, as they tend to input extra noise & I'm trying to eliminate it as much as I can =) but it's a feature rich mobo & Your case has extra sound dampaning layer, so I'll guess everything should be just fine =)
Re: Which pc/workstation for Octane?
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:45 pm
by glimpse
Joe Piler wrote:I heard some nasty stories about the GTX 780 when making architectural visuals.
It seems that the 780 creates artifacts, or wrong pixels every 1000 pixels.
And when making a 3000x2000 render, there are lots af artifacts.
The Titan Black doesn't do this.
But I didn't tested this myself...
haven't heard any - technically that's almost the same card why it would act strangely?
do You have any link or so? would be interesting to read =)
Re: Which pc/workstation for Octane?
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:21 pm
by haknslash
Yes only use SSD as your boot and a few primary programs. Use a standard physical HDD for everything else you use on a daily basis. SSD's don't have the lifespan of HDD's so you want to limit your write cycles. I use one SSD for OS and a few programs to speed up launch, one HDD for data and one HDD for backup. Also when you get your SSD be sure you tweak it as much as possible by moving any temp writes to the physical drive(s) and your doc, pics, vids, etc.
Re: Which pc/workstation for Octane?
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:38 pm
by Joe Piler
Serious???
I thought SSD's were fast AND good...
Damnnn, I just bought 3 SSD's in this new pc.
1 for OS, 1 for work and 1 for private stuff...
Re: Which pc/workstation for Octane?
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:36 pm
by glimpse
"SSD's don't have the lifespan of HDD's so you want to limit your write cycles" it's not proven, but some think so..
if You haven't got any big libraries & have enough funds SSDs is a way to go, as they will allow files to be stored faster, all system will respond much better. Storage is biggest bottle-neck.
However I'd think 'bout having some backup drive just to have a copy of everything =) just in case.
Re: Which pc/workstation for Octane?
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:01 pm
by mib2berlin
I thought SSD's were fast AND good...
There are, the live cycle is much better then many people think.
For video editing I would take regular HDD but for normal use it is no problem.
Google a bit for SSD livetime or so.
Cheers, mib.
Re: Which pc/workstation for Octane?
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:28 pm
by haknslash
Yes I didn't want to bring up the SSD lifespan it's one of those endless debates and often opens a big 'ole can of worms

. Not to mention there are various types of SSD's to consider when talking lifespan.
Personally I don't worry about my SSD but I do limit the amount of
unecessary writes to it, just to be safe. A multi-SSD system would be nice but my IT department wasn't too keen on my entire build being full of SSD's lol. Money wasn't an object on my build.. At a minimum I would at least suggest a physical backup HDD. Just my .02
Joe I'm sure you will be fine with your SSD's.