MantasKava wrote:The only solution to adjust that is PP in an external app, correct?
SSmolak wrote:ACES = most of the highlights and shadowing you must do in post
OCIO like Blender Filmic, Agx, Octane Camera settings -> you have it already done like In-Render tone mapping.
compenstation.
SSmolak wrote:But if you have many time for doing the same and even more in post - the best is to render linear exr 32bit and do everything manually.
SSmolak wrote:ACES is the best for interiors and product like visualizations. This is my opinion.
SSmolak wrote:If you want control highlights in realtime the best way is to use default Octane camera highlight compenstation.
SSmolak wrote:Generally there is no need to use any OCIO or ACES in Octane. All of these things are for lazy people or if you want generate renderings without or very little post processing.
Octane has build-in many presets for custom LUT's or Responses in Camera Imager. They are really good.
SSmolak wrote:They are really good.
MantasKava wrote:While trying out these new workflows a new question came to my mind- is it possible to use LUTs on top when using OCIO? Maybe some custom one, so the LiveViewer/IPR better represents what I'll be getting after the PP
This also goes against the purpose of OCIO. Doing so will break the imagery.
While trying out these new workflows a few new questions came to my mind:
1. Is it possible to use LUTs on top when using OCIO? Maybe some custom one, so the LiveViewer/IPR better represents what I'll be getting after the PP
2. What's the difference between Response and LUT? To me it looks like they both do pretty much the same thing.
3. Let's say I am using default Octane color management. What is the best way to control roll-off of the highlights and contrast? Tried all of these default/custom Response types and LUTs, but it looks like most of them add some funky colors as well, which I don't like. I just want to adjust highlights/highlight roll-off and contrast.
MantasKava wrote:The idea is to only use that LUT for LiveViewer/IPR while look dev'ing. No?
MantasKava wrote:I really like AgX's look/how it deals with highlights, but I feel like it kills/flattens the highlights maybe a little too much even (just like ACES). And custom LUT could help here I believe?
MantasKava wrote:Or what's the other options I have? to keep the AgX OCIO/workflow, but make it so it doesn't compress the highlights THAT much.
I found with AgX I have to increase my exposure from 1.5 to 4.0 to make my white-colored materials (srgb 220) look white (and not grey) again. And after increasing the exposure that much, all the contrast is gone, which makes the image very flat.
MantasKava wrote:Also, I updated my previous comment with more questions:
1. Is it possible to use LUTs on top when using OCIO? Maybe some custom one, so the LiveViewer/IPR better represents what I'll be getting after the PP
MantasKava wrote:2. What's the difference between Response and LUT? To me it looks like they both do pretty much the same thing.
MantasKava wrote:3. Let's say I am using default Octane color management. What is the best way to control roll-off of the highlights and contrast? Tried all of these default/custom Response types and LUTs, but it looks like most of them add some funky colors as well, which I don't like. I just want to adjust highlights/highlight roll-off and contrast.
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