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Re: Octane beta 2.4 intermittent release next week

Postby more3D » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:18 pm

more3D Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:18 pm
SamCameron wrote:Would be nice to have a parameter to control the shadow intensity aswell as the shadow blur for the 2.4.


But this wouldn´t be unbiased any more, right?
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Re: Octane beta 2.4 intermittent release next week

Postby SamCameron » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:39 pm

SamCameron Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:39 pm
Would be interest to tweak a little bit some scenes, sometimes the shadows are too sharp or too dark.
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Re: Octane beta 2.4 intermittent release next week

Postby matej » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:47 pm

matej Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:47 pm
@Sam,

If your shadows are too dark, then tweak gamma / exposure, use pathtracing... I don't see your idea happening (not in the time frame you have given them, anyway :D )
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Re: Octane beta 2.4 intermittent release next week

Postby more3D » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:51 pm

more3D Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:51 pm
SamCameron wrote:sometimes the shadows are too sharp or too dark.


In that case lower the power of your blackbody/HDRI emission and/or choose a less contrasty camera response preset & change the exposure.
I´m not sure if it will be ever possible to integrate parameters like shadow blur & opacity in fully unbiased renderings, as they´re based on IBL e.g.
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Re: Octane beta 2.4 intermittent release next week

Postby irene » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:15 pm

irene Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:15 pm
what do i wait for most?
light through glass, glass shadows ... caustics... oho.
in this life? :mrgreen: i find myself a bit infected by all that Slavic pessimism around, ähem. :|
no, it's a lie. ;)
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Re: Octane beta 2.4 intermittent release next week

Postby infernoVFX » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:26 pm

infernoVFX Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:26 pm
Yes, Octane is unbiased rendering engine but when client/director ask for lighter shadows this is where trouble starts. They don't want to know if this is an unbiased result or whatever, they want a lighter shadows...... you can play with gamma and response curves but this is not a solution.

You wouldn't have that problem if they just simply add the buttons for "Reflection pass", "Diffuse without the shadows" and "Shadow pass" alongside the "Occlusion pass" button that already exist. This way you can adjust shadows/reflections/colors as you like in post-processing stage. Those 3 basic passes are a must for the compositing to be successful. If they do that i guarantee a large number of studios and production houses would jump to use Octane. It would be nice to have 32-bit exr output but its mentioned so many times that i don't want to go there.

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Re: Octane beta 2.4 intermittent release next week

Postby mirobimbo » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:20 pm

mirobimbo Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:20 pm
I think, parameter to control the shadow intensity and shadow blur is not physically based parameter.
Sorry my English.
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Re: Octane beta 2.4 intermittent release next week

Postby ttaberna » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 pm

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infernoVFX wrote:
You wouldn't have that problem if they just simply add the buttons for "Reflection pass", "Diffuse without the shadows" and "Shadow pass" alongside the "Occlusion pass" button that already exist.

I think something like that is cooking in Refractive kitchen. Hope so! :D
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Re: Octane beta 2.4 intermittent release next week

Postby Elvissuperstar007 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:03 pm

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the people we write our wishes, but do not require them any time soon, let it be for future updates! I'll wait until Friday 1.24 if need be, the main thing qualitatively make! which I have no doubt

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Re: Octane beta 2.4 intermittent release next week

Postby anomi » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:34 pm

anomi Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:34 pm
Yes, Octane is unbiased rendering engine but when client/director ask for lighter shadows this is where trouble starts. They don't want to know if this is an unbiased result or whatever, they want a lighter shadows...... you can play with gamma and response curves but this is not a solution.

You wouldn't have that problem if they just simply add the buttons for "Reflection pass", "Diffuse without the shadows" and "Shadow pass" alongside the "Occlusion pass" button that already exist. This way you can adjust shadows/reflections/colors as you like in post-processing stage. Those 3 basic passes are a must for the compositing to be successful. If they do that i guarantee a large number of studios and production houses would jump to use Octane. It would be nice to have 32-bit exr output but its mentioned so many times that i don't want to go there.


i solidly support u infernoVFX,
arion render allready support all of the d features u listed,and more
compositing is almost useless without render passes, i hope octane team wld look into these critical needs.

oh and render layers is equaliy important, having d ability to isolate any part of ur scene, and render just that instead of the entire scene ;)
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