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Diffuse texture legacy gamma in AC25

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:44 pm
by Dingbat
has something changed in the way the Octane plugin reads the diffuse texture gamma from AC materials in AC25?

in a new AC25 file all diffuse textures have gamma 1 and look washed out, and then i checked some old files in AC24 and the value is 2.2 for all materials.

i tried to reconvert all materials but it's still the same, and if anything i made things worse as the materials i had personalised now need redoing...

any ideas?
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Re: Diffuse texture legacy gamma in AC25

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:41 pm
by Dingbat
created a new scene using default template and still the same issue

all materials with gamma 1 diffuse textures and washed out renders
gamma.jpg

Re: Diffuse texture legacy gamma in AC25

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:19 pm
by Dingbat
same process in AC24

new file using default template in both cases

in AC24 default diffuse texture gamma seems to be 2.2 and there is no 'Color space' variable in the material parameters
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Re: Diffuse texture legacy gamma in AC25

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:35 am
by face_off
Hi

I think the issue is that the Daylight Environment changed, and it now has red below the horizon, which makes it look like the textures are washed out. To determine if this is indeed the issue, use an RGB Color of (255, 255, 255) in the Environment Texture.

Paul

Re: Diffuse texture legacy gamma in AC25

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:03 am
by Dingbat
thanks Paul

i changed the environment to pure white but the result is still washed out compared to before

in AC25 all the diffuse textures are defaulting to gamma 1, whereas in previous versions the default was 2.2

the AC25 plugin also has settings for 'Color space' in various places, but the node associated node types don't make any sense, and if i try to choose one the Color space changes from default OCIO to 'Not connected' and then becomes unselectable

so if you create a slab in AC25 and assign a default material, what is the gamma of the diffuse texture?
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Re: Diffuse texture legacy gamma in AC25

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:41 am
by face_off
You may be right! What was the version number of the plugin which is working correctly for you please?

Thanks

Paul

Re: Diffuse texture legacy gamma in AC25

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:45 am
by Dingbat
the 'correct' plugin is the AC24 version 2020.2.0.105

however, note that if i save the AC24 file and open it in AC25, then it renders fine because the material diffuse has the same 2.2 gamma as in AC24

i think the issue is that starting a new scene in AC25 for some reason the default diffuse gamma applied is 1 instead of 2.2

hope that makes sense

Re: Diffuse texture legacy gamma in AC25

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:53 am
by face_off
Dingbat wrote:the 'correct' plugin is the AC24 version 2020.2.0.105

however, note that if i save the AC24 file and open it in AC25, then it renders fine because the material diffuse has the same 2.2 gamma as in AC24

i think the issue is that starting a new scene in AC25 for some reason the default diffuse gamma applied is 1 instead of 2.2

hope that makes sense
You are right. The gamma for new scenes need to be set to 2.2 (from 1.0). I will fix this in the next release.

Paul

Re: Diffuse texture legacy gamma in AC25

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:02 pm
by face_off
This issue has now been fixed in release 2021.1.3.110 available at viewtopic.php?f=56&t=78052.

Thanks

Paul