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Hair and other models in wrong positions

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:45 am
by SparkieShock
When I load up some of my genesis 3 and 8 characters sometimes they're facing the wrong direction ... in the DAZ camera they're facing a certain way .. in the Octane viewport their facing another way .. and things like hair .. and genital models are not even remotely close to being where they should be.

I have found the only way to work around this is to move the character a foot to the left or right .. rebuild the scene .. and then use Crtl Z to put him back in the right position and rebuild the scene once again. Most of the time this makes everything snap back into place.

What gives? .. Why can't octane get it right the first time? Is there a setting I need to enable to get this. It's most annoying when assets are not showing in their correct positions and one has to faff about rebuilding the scene sometimes more than twice and move stuff around. This has happened to me many times.

Thanks for all advice and help.

Re: Hair and other models in wrong positions

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:31 pm
by face_off
I have never seen this happen, and have no had other reports of it. You haven't provide any of the details requested in viewtopic.php?f=44&t=55214), so I can't really help you. However it sounds like you have found a reasonable workaround.

Paul

Re: Hair and other models in wrong positions

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:41 pm
by SparkieShock
It happens every time I load up my characters. As for providing details I can send you a DUF of a scene .. and if you compare the locations of people and hair and gens to where they should be in DAZ .. they're not right. I'll send that to the forum link you suggest.

Re: Hair and other models in wrong positions

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:44 pm
by ForceX
Yah this happens a lot. When it does happen I just click the Reload-->Rebuild Scene at the bottom of the OctaneRender Viewport window.

The only way I can think that this happens is like this.

1. Items get loaded into the scene in their vanilla state.
2. DAZ is busy preventing any other application on the pc to function. Try using the internet while DAZ is loading nothing works.
2a. Octane caches the object out of order because of step 2.
3. The scene continues to load applying position changes, morphs and DAZ materials.
4. Octane loads it's materials at end.

It seams Octane caches the objects geometry at the wrong time (because of DAZ busyness) and steps 2,2a,3 kind of get swirled together executing in a non linear manner and we get geometry that is out of place.

It's just a theory.
Solution perhaps make sure Octane does not cache anything until the scene or object has loaded 100%?

Re: Hair and other models in wrong positions

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:48 pm
by SparkieShock
Well that's good to know it's not just me. And yeah I do tend to sit watching youtube whilst things are loading .. perhaps I'll assign that to my other PC.

I susupect you're right .. that it's a combination of DAZ and Octane loading things before morphs are applied all that. Doing things out of order. I do find though that rebuilding the scene doesn't help at first .. I have to translate and rotate my guys a bit .. the rebuild .. and then it behaves itself. I guess it's not the worst thing in the world .. but sometimes I worry with 'rebuiding' as I've had many a crash after hitting that button. Though I'll admit lately rebuilding has been working properly.