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alpha channel on surfaces (constant value 0 - 255)
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:10 am
by sjonsjine
alpha channel on surfaces does not work?
(constant value 0 - 255)
I want my floor excluded from my alpha channel. So the alpha channel just shows the objects on that floor. Normally I do this in lw's surface panle, advanced, alpha channel, constant value, alpha 0. The other objects will have a value of 255.
Thos doesn't work with Octane or is there another way?
Thanks!!
Also the shadow density settings...
Freddy
Re: alpha channel on surfaces (constant value 0 - 255)
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:21 am
by juanjgon
Nope, sorry ... Octane currently doesn't support a custom alpha value for the surfaces. Also shadow density is a feature not supported by Octane.
You are going to need to render a second pass with your floor object disabled to get an alpha channel without the floor. As you only need the alpha channel, you can use a faster rendering configuration, for example using the infochannel kernel, to get your alpha pass in only few seconds/frame.
-Juanjo
Re: alpha channel on surfaces (constant value 0 - 255)
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:40 am
by sigmamoon
sjonsjine wrote:alpha channel on surfaces does not work?
(constant value 0 - 255)
I want my floor excluded from my alpha channel. So the alpha channel just shows the objects on that floor. Normally I do this in lw's surface panle, advanced, alpha channel, constant value, alpha 0. The other objects will have a value of 255.
Thos doesn't work with Octane or is there another way?
Thanks!!
Also the shadow density settings...
Freddy
quick respons freddy
it s not really easy in octan to change the alpha channel.
I don t know how you want to use it but, i personnaly use the ObjectID or MaterialID (info kernel) to manage the individual alphas.
It s my only way to erase some floors or backgrounds.
Interesting to see if other guys have nice quickly tips in this case
Re: alpha channel on surfaces (constant value 0 - 255)
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:05 am
by sjonsjine
sigmamoon wrote:sjonsjine wrote:alpha channel on surfaces does not work?
(constant value 0 - 255)
I want my floor excluded from my alpha channel. So the alpha channel just shows the objects on that floor. Normally I do this in lw's surface panle, advanced, alpha channel, constant value, alpha 0. The other objects will have a value of 255.
Thos doesn't work with Octane or is there another way?
Thanks!!
Also the shadow density settings...
Freddy
quick respons freddy
it is not really easy in octan to change the alpha channel.
I don t know how you want to use it but, i personnaly use the ObjectID or MaterialID (info kernel) to manage the individual alphas.
It s my only way to erase some floors or backgrounds.
Interesting to see if other guys have nice quickly tips in this case
Thanks Sigmamoon but how do you do that inside octane
Strange that Octane doesn't support this, such a feature is so essential if you want to have your objects in different layers, or as in my case, some objects on a floor, to make the floor brighter or if you want to tweak a certain object in After Effects, or for special fx. . . etc . . . etc
So Otoy please add this in the next build/ release?
Freddy
Re: alpha channel on surfaces (constant value 0 - 255)
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:14 am
by Builtdown
About shadow density :
I wanted to lighten the shadows a bit. I rendered a normal image, then I rendered a second time with all the shadows disabled and comped them in photoshop. Worked well!
- Builtdown
Re: alpha channel on surfaces (constant value 0 - 255)
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:35 am
by sjonsjine
Builtdown wrote:About shadow density :
I wanted to lighten the shadows a bit. I rendered a normal image, then I rendered a second time with all the shadows disabled and comped them in photoshop. Worked well!
- Builtdown
shadows disabled?? where? not in lightwave shadowtype off.
Freddy
Re: alpha channel on surfaces (constant value 0 - 255)
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:20 am
by Builtdown
Select object > Properties > Render > Cast Shadow
Re: alpha channel on surfaces (constant value 0 - 255)
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:28 am
by sjonsjine
Builtdown wrote:Select object > Properties > Render > Cast Shadow
OMG! Of course!!!!
Thanks!
Freddy
Re: alpha channel on surfaces (constant value 0 - 255)
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:09 am
by sigmamoon
Then i think i ll do 3passes
ObjectID pass (inside the info kernel)
you could tweack any objects inside ur frame (colors, curves correction etc... per obects)
pass without shadow (nice idea for your purpose thnks to "Builtdown")
personnaly i ll finish with matting the surface of the floor to got the alpha shadows pass and use it over your final frame.
i think it could be great to compose with this 3 passes, and i think could be quicker to the frame "with and without shadow cast" especially if u got many objects to select to cut off cast shadow option, but deepend of your scene and complexity parenting.
My advice just calculate one time the entire frame without shadows (quick render in many cases) and only shadow maps after. "Maybe" quicker that the entire scene with shadow on.
but it s only my mental projection
