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SILVER LOGO 2014

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:37 pm
by Silverwing
Finally something new from me.

Its a new logo animation to test the capabilities of the Octane Render C4D-Plugin

Technical data:

Modeled in C4D R15
Shaded, lit and rendered in Octane:
Direct Lighting Diffuse Depth 2, Motion Blur [16 Subframes] and DOF
Additional Passes (Sparks) rendered in C4D Phys Renderer
Rendered in 1920X1080p FullHD. Rendertimes were around 4-5 Min / Frame on one GTX Titan
Compositing, Colorgrading was done in AfterEffects.
Sounddesign made with Audition.

Everything worked well and smooth and I´m glad to say that the Octane C4D Plugin is a big success!
As always I hope you like it!





[vimeo]http://www.vimeo.com/78654014[/vimeo]

Re: SILVER LOGO 2014

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:06 pm
by aoktar
great job. I'm curious for why you don't use octane for sparks?

Re: SILVER LOGO 2014

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:21 pm
by Silverwing
hi Aoktar:
Thanks for your comment!

I did render the Sparks in C4D Phys for two reasons:
  • In Octane there is no luminous material. You have to create a light source to have it "shining".
    And by definition the smaller the light source the more difficult it becomes to have a clean result with a path tracer. Especially when there are 200 very small lightsources!
  • I wanted to fade out the particles instead of them simply disappear from one frame to the next. And this is only doable with C4D and the C4D materials... at least to my knowledge!
In the end C4D took very long per frame too. So i might have had the same rendertime with octane.
But I am one of the guys that say what matters the most in the end is the result. And I like it though the particles were rendered with Phys render.

Re: SILVER LOGO 2014

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:48 am
by djart
Hi Silverwing,

nice work as usual. Very clean, great textures and material.
But the first thing i noticed is the missing reflections and lighting from the little welding buddies onto the geometry.

As for a personal motivation to find a way on how to render sparks within octane/c4d,
based on your great work here, i gave it a try using a simple scene and a basic emitter, all very draft.
I used one emitter and 3 particles, each with different "power off" keyframes.

I found that control the glow of the sparks, animating the powervalue of an emittermaterial, worked very well.
Of course i dont know how it works in your scene, but maybe you give it a try too? :)

There are 2 files attached, the testvideo and the file for c4d.

djart

Re: SILVER LOGO 2014

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:22 pm
by Silverwing
Thanks for your Reply!
But the first thing i noticed is the missing reflections and lighting from the little welding buddies onto the geometry.
This is not true. They have full interaction to the geometry (Reflection and luminance)! You will see it if you look closely!

If you do not like my Work flow I´m fine with that ;-)
As I said what should matter most, is the Result.

About the Particles:
I never doubted that it was doable in Octane.
What I was after was a good work flow. I wanted the fading of the particles based on their age so they could all have variable lifetimes and still fade out the right time. That is what I achieved with my work flow.

Cheers,
Raphael

Re: SILVER LOGO 2014

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:51 pm
by djart
@Silverwing, it looks like you read my words in some offensive way?
My comment was not meant to be offensive.

Its not about "what i like or what i dont like".
My only intention was about to find a way, or another way, to render sparks within octane, motivated by your work, THATS ALL!
It is also not my intention to proof you wrong.

For me its just about "3d stuff" and to get some polygons to look cool!

Please excuse me if i offended you somehow.
I will not comment any of youre work again, then we should be fine.

djart

Re: SILVER LOGO 2014

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:21 pm
by Silverwing
Sorry If my words were harsh in your "ears".
I appreciate that you was inspired by this animation.

I apologize If I offended you.

Cheers,
Raphael

Re: SILVER LOGO 2014

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:55 am
by Angbor3D
This must be one of the nicest forum with people I have ever been in....

I guess the above is the Octane version of "trolling" and "flaming" - love it...

(and yes thats meant to smile, not to feel offended)

Apart from that: nicely done work- love the vid.

Re: SILVER LOGO 2014

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:05 pm
by Silverwing
Hi Angbor3D

Thanks for your words.
I guess the above is the Octane version of "trolling" and "flaming" - love it...
Ha ha I guess so. :D
Apart from that: nicely done work- love the vid
.
Thanks a lot. Appreciate it!

Cheers,
Raphael

Re: SILVER LOGO 2014

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:59 pm
by djart
Angbor3D wrote:
I guess the above is the Octane version of "trolling" and "flaming" - love it...
Seems you´ve met your master :)

djart