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Interetsting post from Nvidia about Kepler

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:44 am
by mbetke
Heres comment from "The Area" forums about development of iRay and Kepler. As you know iRay is now part of Nvidia and doesnt support Kepler so far.
Phil Miller explained what the benefit of a Kepler is. And its not performance:
We’re still optimizing iray for optimal Kepler performance here at NVIDIA, so it’s not Autodesk dragging their feet here. Our team is working hard to get out something you will like this summer. But to set expectations, you should not expect the initial Kepler products (out now) to deliver a dramatic speed increase for iray over their Fermi generation predecessors. While Kepler has many more cores than Fermi, they run at much lower power, which means they have less performance per core. The gain you are guaranteed to see is superior performance per watt. This also makes it much easier to fit larger or more GPUs into power-constrained systems.

As for viewport/raster performance, it’s quite possible that many high end GPUs will not report high usage unless your scene is really taxing the GPU, most likely with many programmable shaders. High face counts and texture usage impact memory far more than they do workload. The graphics pipeline itself can also have a bottleneck. Here NVIDIA is working with Autodesk (and many other companies) to eliminate unnecessary data transfers that hold back the GPU. This not a reflection on Autodesk’s ability to design but rather how much more rapidly GPUs have evolved than CPUs, as these practices were often negligible to performance a GPU generation or two ago. The good news is that once these “speed bumps” get removed, all modern GPUs should benefit.

- Phil
Author: Phil Miller
So the bottom line is you can plug in more cards for your watts and get same performance a 580 at the end?

Re: Interetsting post from Nvidia about Kepler

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:03 am
by glimpse
I think what they ment to say (read this somewhere else too) that Kepler line is not going to be much more powerful than Fermi, but architectures efficiency is way better. In this way you can fit in Your system (with the same power supply) two or three cards instead of one, and they will perform let's say twice or even three times better. pluss they weill equip new cards with more memory 7 some other goodies..

During their presentation in GDC they stated that new cards are 3times more efficient =).. Mm..i had a slide somewhere..mm, here it is:
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Re: Interetsting post from Nvidia about Kepler

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:26 pm
by mbetke
So I dont know what to do.

I just noticed that I cant fit a 3thrd 580GTX on my board. It has 4 Pcie slots but the Gainward Phantom has a 3-Slot design. So no ore than 2 of them fit in... :( I should have looked for it before.

If I want to upgrade I could now get 4 two slot design of this 680GTX 4GB thingies but dont know if I have a lot more (useable) computing power than now.

Re: Interetsting post from Nvidia about Kepler

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:36 pm
by glimpse
Use raisers - the solution =) probably You'll have a headache to modify case, but maybe it even be worth doing this because of thermal managment. Raise-out every second card =)

if You go upgrading to four gtx 680 from two 580 at the very moment performance wise should be somewhat very similar, but You get a gig more of vRam =)

it's unclear by now how good these Keplers are going to perform on next build of Octane Render. In the same boat actually - I'm waiting for news & looking to upgrade my two 460s =)