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Re: NEW: RNDR+ subscriptions - FAQ

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:35 pm
by SSmolak
"RNDR: 10,000+ OctaneBench hours of cloud rendering (100+ RNDR tokens)"

But "1 RNDR Token will provide an hour of rendering at 25 OctaneBench." SO 100 RNDR = 2 500 OctaneBench not 10.000. Please describe what exectly we get because 10 000 OBH are not 100 RNDR.

Re: NEW: RNDR+ subscriptions - FAQ

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:48 pm
by Goldorak
SSmolak wrote:"RNDR: 10,000+ OctaneBench hours of cloud rendering (100+ RNDR tokens)"

But "1 RNDR Token will provide an hour of rendering at 25 OctaneBench." SO 100 RNDR = 2 500 OctaneBench not 10.000. Please describe what exectly we get because 10 000 OBH are not 100 RNDR.
Tier 2/3 is 4x/8x the OBh work of Tier 1.

Re: NEW: RNDR+ subscriptions - FAQ

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:52 pm
by Big_Vlad
Hey!
So yo, it supposed to be sales, right? Black Friday discount.
But why the prices almost the same? If its almost the same it should be called almost BF, something like just BF breakfast, without coffee lol. Here is the real BF emotion :D And here is otoy BF emotion :| Its good, I mean thanx even for this, but :|

Re: NEW: RNDR+ subscriptions - FAQ

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:05 pm
by Big_Vlad
Hey!
So yo, it supposed to be sales, right? Black Friday discount.
But why the prices almost the same? If its almost the same it should be called almost BF, something like just BF breakfast, without coffee lol. Here is the real BF emotion :D And here is otoy BF emotion :| Its good, I mean thanx even for this, but :|

Re: NEW: RNDR+ subscriptions - FAQ

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:05 pm
by Greg
Ok - so I'm interested, but I already have an Enterprise Sub (and a stand-alone). Is it possible to upgrade a current sub or is this deal only for people who want to buy a whole new sub? I swear OTOY subscriptions are harder to understand than Organic Chemistry.

-Greg

Re: NEW: RNDR+ subscriptions - FAQ

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:17 pm
by chris_solo
Hi,

I have a version of Octane 4 + the C4d plug-in, do I have to update to the 2020 version at $ 597 or can I subscribe directly to the Studio BlackFriday offer at 13.65 / month and so have the 2021 version directly? I'm lost in license updates, it's not really clear ...
can you help me, please.

Re: NEW: RNDR+ subscriptions - FAQ

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:23 pm
by heimlich
Greg wrote:Ok - so I'm interested, but I already have an Enterprise Sub (and a stand-alone). Is it possible to upgrade a current sub or is this deal only for people who want to buy a whole new sub? I swear OTOY subscriptions are harder to understand than Organic Chemistry.

-Greg
completely agree.. I have multiple years on my multiple enterprise subs with all access... Is there a map that explains the labyrinth of confusion ?

Re: NEW: RNDR+ subscriptions - FAQ

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:03 am
by pegot
Please help me make my purchasing decisions by answering the following:

(1) I have 4 weeks left on my current All Access Enterprise Subscription. If I sign up now for another year of All Access OR the new Enterprise RNDR+, what happens? Do I lose one month of my current subscription?

(2a) What is the situation with Sculptron? That application is not listed in either of the purchase pages for Enterprise All Access or Enterprise RNDR+.

(2b) When is a final version of Sculptron actually being released?

(3) Please confirm access to EmberGenFX is extended one year to 11/2021 with renewal of a BF Enterprise All Access subscription.

(4) If we sign up for Enterprise RNDR+ when do we get access to World Creator?

(5) Prices on purchase pages are listed in Euros. I'm in the U.S. Does that mean for BF deals I will actually be paying $23.87 a month for a renewal of my current Enterprise All Access subscription for a total of $286.44? Or, if I choose Enterprise RNDR+, is it actually $35.88 a month for a total of $430.56 I would be paying?

(6) Does the additional 10€ monthly fee for EmberGenFX and World Creator include BOTH applications for the 10€ monthly fee, or is it 10€ for EACH application (so 10€ x 2 = 20€)?

Re: NEW: RNDR+ subscriptions - FAQ

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:34 am
by Goldorak
pegot wrote:Please help me make my purchasing decisions by answering the following:

(1) I have 4 weeks left on my current All Access Enterprise Subscription. If I sign up now for another year of All Access OR the new Enterprise RNDR+, what happens? Do I lose one month of my current subscription?

(2a) What is the situation with Sculptron? That application is not listed in either of the purchase pages for Enterprise All Access or Enterprise RNDR+.

(2b) When is a final version of Sculptron actually being released?

(3) Please confirm access to EmberGenFX is extended one year to 11/2021 with renewal of a BF Enterprise All Access subscription.

(4) If we sign up for Enterprise RNDR+ when do we get access to World Creator?

(5) Prices on purchase pages are listed in Euros. I'm in the U.S. Does that mean for BF deals I will actually be paying $23.87 a month for a renewal of my current Enterprise All Access subscription for a total of $286.44? Or, if I choose Enterprise RNDR+, is it actually $35.88 a month for a total of $430.56 I would be paying?

(6) Does the additional 10€ monthly fee for EmberGenFX and World Creator include BOTH applications for the 10€ monthly fee, or is it 10€ for EACH application (so 10€ x 2 = 20€)?
1) Is it a sub or a maintenance? If it is sub, consider the 100 RNDR you get with RNDR+ it is around one month of ent sub value. BF ent is cheaper, and the value of EmbergenFX through the year is probably worth it to not get the RNDR rebate.

2) viewtopic.php?f=24&t=76368

3) yes - it comes with BF annual sub on the shop page now.

4) It is on the downloads page already - check it out. And it is free beta until 2/21. After that you need to pay 10/month or have RNDR+

5) The price is in Euros, and that is final. The converson to any other Currency is whatever the going rate is as determined by Stripe/credit card processing.

6) No - it is 10/month for one, so 20 for both. Same with render nodes - each is 10/month, so 10x that is near 100/month that is now included in RNDR+ sub. Good value if you use more than one node, and even better on 3 or more nodes.

Re: NEW: RNDR+ subscriptions - FAQ

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:32 am
by pegot
Goldorak wrote:
pegot wrote:Please help me make my purchasing decisions by answering the following:

(1) I have 4 weeks left on my current All Access Enterprise Subscription. If I sign up now for another year of All Access OR the new Enterprise RNDR+, what happens? Do I lose one month of my current subscription?

(2a) What is the situation with Sculptron? That application is not listed in either of the purchase pages for Enterprise All Access or Enterprise RNDR+.

(2b) When is a final version of Sculptron actually being released?

(3) Please confirm access to EmberGenFX is extended one year to 11/2021 with renewal of a BF Enterprise All Access subscription.

(4) If we sign up for Enterprise RNDR+ when do we get access to World Creator?

(5) Prices on purchase pages are listed in Euros. I'm in the U.S. Does that mean for BF deals I will actually be paying $23.87 a month for a renewal of my current Enterprise All Access subscription for a total of $286.44? Or, if I choose Enterprise RNDR+, is it actually $35.88 a month for a total of $430.56 I would be paying?

(6) Does the additional 10€ monthly fee for EmberGenFX and World Creator include BOTH applications for the 10€ monthly fee, or is it 10€ for EACH application (so 10€ x 2 = 20€)?
1) Is it a sub or a maintenance? If it is sub, consider the 100 RNDR you get with RNDR+ it is around one month of ent sub value. BF ent is cheaper, and the value of EmbergenFX through the year is probably worth it to not get the RNDR rebate.

2) viewtopic.php?f=24&t=76368

3) yes - it comes with BF annual sub on the shop page now.

4) It is on the downloads page already - check it out. And it is free beta until 2/21. After that you need to pay 10/month or have RNDR+

5) The price is in Euros, and that is final. The converson to any other Currency is whatever the going rate is as determined by Stripe/credit card processing.

6) No - it is 10/month for one, so 20 for both. Same with render nodes - each is 10/month, so 10x that is near 100/month that is now included in RNDR+ sub. Good value if you use more than one node, and even better on 3 or more nodes.
Thanks for you answers Goldorak.

It looks like I currently have an All Access maintenance plan (in 2018 I got the Enterprise All Access on BF discount, and last year 2019 I renewed that with a maintenance plan). If I renew the maintenance plan for another year do I still get access to EmeberGenFX till Nov. 2021? Or do I have to sign up for an entirely new Enterprise All Access subscription during Black Friday? It seems that there is no BF discount just for maintenance plan renewal.

One more thing. Can you confirm I have render nodes for another machine with the All Access maintenance plan? It is my understanding that I do but haven't actually used them yet so never tested. But this year I am interested in combining my PC with my Mac now that Octane X is a go.

Regarding RNDR network rendering, tokens, and how that all works - I am completely in the dark. Through I don't imagine I have a pressing need for that as long as I can combine two computers with multiple GPU's.