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Re: NEW GRAPHICS CARD

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:23 pm
by larmannjan
I currently have a laptop with a nvidia 240M and 1gb
how much mopre performande am i going to get than with my t6600(intel processor) 2x2.23 :ugeek:

Re: NEW GRAPHICS CARD

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:26 pm
by radiance
Hi,

This is difficult to answer as octane does not have a CPU mode to compare to...

Radiance

Re: NEW GRAPHICS CARD

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:34 am
by megacal
We recommend the GTX460 or 560, preferably with 2GB video ram if you can find one.
-radiance

I just checked at Amazon for a GTX560, but see many models made by different companies(?)

Which one is best for Octane? Too bad there isn't some way to add ram or let it use flash ram(?)

Looks like the Palit is the only one with 2gb, but don't know anything about the company.....good stuff?

Re: NEW GRAPHICS CARD

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:35 am
by Odeas
I know Gainward also offer a 2GB 560.

I've heard some other Palit models having troubles with their fans failing, which when being used for something like octane (a lot of gpu load) I would be a worry.

**See EDIT**

The Palit 560 Ti is also $280.
A EVGA 2GB 460 is $230 ($220 after rebate) for not a massive leap in performance afaik and EVGA is a good brand with $60 saving.


You could also probably get some very cheap 460's on Ebay etc with gamers upgrading.

I'd double check what Palit's warranty is like before getting one.

**EDIT** After reading another post on the 560TI performance there does seem to be a bit better between that and the 460. See this post for more details.

Re: NEW GRAPHICS CARD

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:53 am
by megacal
I was going to try to put together a machine to run Octane, but
after pricing the parts, decided to find a low cost box that I can
just swap out the current card with a GTX560.

Seems like the fastest way to get up and running with Octane, and
not trying to accumulate all the parts & OS, put it together and
hope it works.

I've found several under $400 US, eg the Lenovo Ideacentre H405-7723-1AU at Fry's....
don't know if they have stores outside the US or what shipping would add, but I'm sure there must be similar if not better deals elsewhere.

And that's not a sale price. Just started shopping, so if I find a better deal, will pass it on.
;)

Re: NEW GRAPHICS CARD

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:03 am
by Odeas
That box has an AMD integrated graphics chip.

If your looking to buy a 1 box solution I'd possibly steer towards an Intel or Nvidia integrated just to be sure there are no driver issues, cos you'd probably need to disable the AMD chip anyway to get the Nvidia card to play nice with octane (i'm fairly sure some people have had issues mixing amd with nvidia when it comes to octane.)

If your really looking to save money and get a cheap PC then building it yourself is usually a good amount cheaper and its really simple now-a-days. You'd get a much better performing PC for the same cost, or the same performance PC for cheaper 8-)

Where abouts you from?

Re: NEW GRAPHICS CARD

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:14 am
by megacal
Odeas,

thanks for the tip about AMD vs NVidia...didn't realize there might be a problem.

I was going to build one, but when I priced all the parts & OS, seems like I can
get a better deal getting one off the shelf and save the time & hassle of getting
the parts and putting them together.

Can't believe I could put one together for much less than $350 US.

BTW, I'm in Escondido, California, just north of San Diego. =)

Are you already using Octane? What 3D app? I can hardly wait...I can't believe everyone hasn't already
switched to it if it really renders 50x faster!

The renders are incredible and the gui looks very user friendly...why would anyone still use VRay if Octane is
so great? The time savings alone make it a must have, IMHO, but I'm not in the industry, so I don't know
why it hasn't already taken over(?)

Anyway, I'm looking forward to using it, and get a new machine as well to free up my modeling machine.

Tell me if I'm wrong, but I hope to model in C4D while Octane renders in the background(?), or is that pushing it?

Re: NEW GRAPHICS CARD

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:12 pm
by Odeas
I'm not 100% sure there would be a problem with it being an integrated chip but I'd personally not chance it.

If you have an existing PC and your not going to use it after getting a new machine then I'd almost guarantee a cheaper option is building it yourself as you already have Case, HDD's, PSU, Cables, Fans and OS (even without OS your saving a lot)

I also prefer knowing that I'm getting quality parts with a future upgrade possible, not just some cheapo motherboard for example with no expansion for ram, overclocking or the higher range CPU's. (My main concern the fact it'll be a generic PSU)

Though i've been building for years so its usually done in an hour ish.

Yeah but only toying with the demo atm - usually just reading the forums till I can get a licence.
Can't get a payment method together yet (got the money just can't transfer it!) to get a licence. *sucks* :cry:
GPU is a GTX460 and 3dApp is Blender.

Since Octane doesn't use up much CPU resource or massive memory then you should be ok to model, just might be a little sluggish as your GPU will be getting hammered. The solution would be to buy a second very cheap GPU to use to control your monitor and dedicate a powerful GPU just to octane. It would also make octane easier to use as the view would be smoother.

Re: NEW GRAPHICS CARD

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:33 pm
by megacal
I've been using only laptops for the past 8yr...my working machine is an HP6226...
runs everything (C4D, Carrara, Hexagon, Bryce, ZBrush) very well except VUE & Messiah Studio.

I just got an ASUS Republic of Gamers G73 in Dec, and it really rocks, but sadly has an ATI card, though
a good one, not cuda. =(

Didn't really plan to get another computer, but got a license for Octane, so gotta do it!

I have AR3 for C4D, and it's a very good renderer, but after seeing those done with Octane,
just no comparison. And being able to render in realtime is.....unreal! =O

Yeah, it may be wishful thinking to be able to use C4D & Octane at the same time, but will try.

And will make sure I get an motherboard with at least 2 pc express slots (I think that's what
the GTX560 needs) to add another if necessary, so one could be devoted to rendering...didn't
know you could do that....neat.

Also, may have to attach my portable air-conditioner to it, or at least open
the side panel an put a floor fan on it! =)

Or better yet, use the render box as a portable heater in the winter! ;)

Re: NEW GRAPHICS CARD

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:03 pm
by Odeas
The GTX 560 (as well as all GPU's at the moment) only use 1 PCIe 'slot' a such but uses up 2 spaces at the back of the PC because of the vents to cool the card.

Although if your looking to add a second card for display and modelling etc smoothly while running octane then yes you'll need a second PCIe slot.

You could also look into DIY ViDock solutions if you want to add a desktop GPU to a laptop but thats gettin bit more complicated and you'd only see about 50% of the performance. (potentially adding cuda performance to your laptop)

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming- ... ences.html