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Re: Altus rendering denoising system

Postby Leonides02 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:13 am

Leonides02 Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:13 am
How come nobody has gotten a straight answer on which passes to use?
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Re: Altus rendering denoising system

Postby MildMustard » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:14 pm

MildMustard Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:14 pm
In my humble opinion, the denoise function should be from Otoy, just as Chaos Group has created one for Vray. It makes much better marketing sense this way too, as it would be a feature within Octane (regardless that is doesn't lie within core) and no need for another purchase to get quicker cleaner renders. Even though it isn't perfect, Vray does a supurb job! I use both Octane and Vray for Modo and it would be a cherry on the top if we had this natively in the program.
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Re: Altus rendering denoising system

Postby mark0spasic » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:51 pm

mark0spasic Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:51 pm
Leonides02 wrote:How come nobody has gotten a straight answer on which passes to use?


Use this passes:
beauty - beauty
normals - geo.norm
position - position
albedo - diffuse filter
visibility - opacity
caustics - refraction filter
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Re: Altus rendering denoising system

Postby Leonides02 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:36 am

Leonides02 Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:36 am
Weird, that gave me a black screen. :-\
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Re: Altus rendering denoising system

Postby Goldorak » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:23 am

Goldorak Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:23 am
MildMustard wrote:In my humble opinion, the denoise function should be from Otoy, just as Chaos Group has created one for Vray. It makes much better marketing sense this way too, as it would be a feature within Octane (regardless that is doesn't lie within core) and no need for another purchase to get quicker cleaner renders. Even though it isn't perfect, Vray does a supurb job! I use both Octane and Vray for Modo and it would be a cherry on the top if we had this natively in the program.


I agree. See my other post on the 3.1 roadmap. Adaptive Sampling is coming, at the latest in 3.1, which will be non-destructive (and therefore higher quality then brute force denoising). We are also looking for feedback on Altus for users who have been using it with 3.0 - what works and doesn't. This would be helpful before we proceed with our own version (we have some novel ideas for denoising we are testing in any case).
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Re: Altus rendering denoising system

Postby ff7darkcloud » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:10 am

ff7darkcloud Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:10 am
Got a black screen too. How can we test it when we don't know the passes to use?
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Re: Altus rendering denoising system

Postby Goldorak » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:26 am

Goldorak Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:26 am
ff7darkcloud wrote:Got a black screen too. How can we test it when we don't know the passes to use?


We had a separate team validate and test this using Altus' instructions and it worked as shown in GTC roadmap slides. I can ping them and see if they can help in the forums if you are still stuck.
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Re: Altus rendering denoising system

Postby mark0spasic » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:33 pm

mark0spasic Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:33 pm
I don`t know why you have problems with Altus from my test
you can see I used following passes:

Render two different images with same max samples in this test I set max samples to 1000, turn off static noise also set coherent ratio to 0 save image to exr. ;)
Keep in mind Altus uses GPU memory for processing, quote from their site:
"Can I process 4k images with the Altus?
Yes 4k image filtering is possible with Altus. However, there is a significant increase in the memory usage/requirement. Since all the images are uncompresed in memory, you will need at least 16GB of RAM available at the time of filtering for a single image assuming you are using every input. Currently this is possible on CPU and is not currently possible on a single GPU. It is theoretically possible on GPU using a high end SLI solution such as a Tesla cluster."
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Re: Altus rendering denoising system

Postby Leonides02 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:38 am

Leonides02 Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:38 am
Ok, so it works for me only if I don't include the OPACITY.EXR

The required three (beauty, normals, position) works and so does albedo and caustics.

Opacity gives me a black image.

Can anyone else confirm?
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Re: Altus rendering denoising system

Postby Leonides02 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:57 am

Leonides02 Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:57 am
Also, there's no way we can use this for animation, correct? I mean, I don't know of a way to export render passes inside the animation tab...
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