Sluggish Viewport interactivity especially color picker Tweet

[RegSquires]

A. MacOSX Big Sur 11.3
B. Radeon Pro 560X 4 GB and EGPU in Sonnet 650 external case AMD Radeon Pro WX 9100 16GB Workstation Graphics Card
C. 32 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
D. Nvidia driver version (not applicable)
E. OctaneRender Standalone version Octane X latest version
F. OctaneRender plugin version. C4D-OctaneX-Studio-PR11
G. Host application version, C4D R24.037 (Build 24_0.CL344484.14251)
H.The problem in C4D interaction with Octane is it is sluggish often beach balls and is practically unusable in comparison to Redshift running in the same program. Rewatching the video it appears that the generating material previews is the problem and this can easily be seen in the lower tab.

Please see attached link to video capture that describes the issue:
https://youtu.be/lzoP71RvbKE

I. I got this log as I was trying to turn Material Preview on and off as I saw this was an option. It was already turned off by default, however the materials were updating even with this not checked.

Loaded Octane DLL:Octane X Studio PR11 version:10000306 SDK:PR11
Octane X for Cinema 4D PR11 built for:230 C4D vers:24037
C4D:24037 comp:[Richard’s MacBook Pro (2)] OS:[OS X 64 BIT] macOS: Version 11.3 (Build 20E232) versType:10
CPU:[GenuineIntel, stepping 10, model 14, instruction family 6] speed:2.9 GHz numOfCpu:12Ht
Plugins:[addons advanced_render alembic archigrass assetbrowser bitmapfilter bpexchange browser bugslife_client c4d_viewport_render c4doctane-R23 ca ca2 cadexchange clothilde collada14 collada15 colorchoosergui compositing deltamush deployment dwg dwgobjects dynamics exchanges expressiontag fbx gltf goz hair i_skp interop io_obj metrics mkmodeler mocca model mograph motioncam motiontracker nbo nbp newman nodeeditor objects onlineupdater physx_hybrid projectassetinspector python redshift4c4d relaxuv scenemanager sculpt sculptbrushes shader sketch sky sla spacemouse substance teamrender thinking_particles tool_system_hybrid tpoperators usd uvviewport volumes xpressocore xtensions ]
Loaded 89 osl scripts from dir:/Applications/Maxon Cinema 4D R24/plugins/C4D-OctaneX-Studio-PR11/res/osl_scripts
VRAM used/free/max:0Kb/4Gb/4Gb Out-of-core used:0Kb RAM used:25.386Gb total:32Gb OpenGL free/total:0/0
File not found:/Users/richarddsquires/Library/Preferences/Maxon/Maxon Cinema 4D R24_36E19156/updates-ox.txt
FumeFx library initialisation error!
--------------------------- EXPORT LOG ---------------------------
Multi-threaded material conversion, thread count=10
Export materials time= 0.864 ms
Collect objects time= 0.117 ms
Mesh creation time = 120.226 ms.
Api update time: 0.073 ms.
VRAM used/free/max:1.048Gb/2.952Gb/4Gb Out-of-core used:0Kb RAM used:27.476Gb total:32Gb OpenGL free/total:0/0
--------------------------- EXPORT LOG ---------------------------
Multi-threaded material conversion, thread count=10
Export materials time= 0.756 ms
Collect objects time= 0.048 ms
Mesh creation time = 124.434 ms.
Api update time: 0.04 ms.
VRAM used/free/max:1.049Gb/2.951Gb/4Gb Out-of-core used:0Kb RAM used:28.016Gb total:32Gb OpenGL free/total:0/0
--------------------------- EXPORT LOG ---------------------------
Multi-threaded material conversion, thread count=10
Export materials time= 0.62 ms
Collect objects time= 0.039 ms
Mesh creation time = 74.984 ms.
Api update time: 0.065 ms.
VRAM used/free/max:1.049Gb/2.951Gb/4Gb Out-of-core used:0Kb RAM used:28.109Gb total:32Gb OpenGL free/total:0/0
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<<< Render failure detected!!! >>>
Please check render statistics to solve the problem.
MB:0/0 ST/MOV:0/2 Nodes:17 Tris:781k DispTris:0 Hairs:0 Meshes:2
Textures Grey8/16:0/0 Rgb32/64:0/0
>> ProcessUpdate(flags=M cAsyn=0 dDelay=0
checkAllUpdates(flags=M updFlags=)
<<< Mat checkAndUpdate STARTED >>>
convert mat:[OctDiffuse1] tip:1029501
>> ProcessUpdate end res:1
OCT:Compute error 2097152:2891:
OCT:Compute error 2097152:2891 on device 1:
--------------------------- EXPORT LOG ---------------------------
ResetAndInit 1
ResetAndInit [OK]
Multi-threaded material conversion, thread count=10
Export materials time= 0.499 ms
Collect objects time= 0.034 ms
Mesh creation time = 76.744 ms.
Api update time: 0.036 ms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<<< Render failure detected!!! >>>
Please check render statistics to solve the problem.
MB:0/0 ST/MOV:0/2 Nodes:16 Tris:781k DispTris:0 Hairs:0 Meshes:2
Textures Grey8/16:0/0 Rgb32/64:0/0
OCT:Compute error 2097152:2891:
OCT:Compute error 2097152:2891 on device 1:
--------------------------- EXPORT LOG ---------------------------
ResetAndInit 1
ResetAndInit [OK]
Multi-threaded material conversion, thread count=10
Export materials time= 0.481 ms
Collect objects time= 0.031 ms
Mesh creation time = 68.462 ms.
Api update time: 0.036 ms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<<< Render failure detected!!! >>>
Please check render statistics to solve the problem.
MB:0/0 ST/MOV:0/2 Nodes:16 Tris:781k DispTris:0 Hairs:0 Meshes:2
Textures Grey8/16:0/0 Rgb32/64:0/0
OCT:Compute error 2097152:2891:
OCT:Compute error 2097152:2891 on device 1:
OCT:Compute error 2097152:2891:
OCT:Compute error 2097152:2891 on device 1:
VRAM used/free/max:1.05Gb/2.95Gb/4Gb Out-of-core used:0Kb RAM used:28.429Gb total:32Gb OpenGL free/total:0/0
--------------------------- EXPORT LOG ---------------------------
ResetAndInit 1
ResetAndInit [OK]
Multi-threaded material conversion, thread count=10
Export materials time= 0.437 ms
Collect objects time= 0.03 ms
Mesh creation time = 66.971 ms.
Api update time: 0.046 ms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<<< Render failure detected!!! >>>
Please check render statistics to solve the problem.
MB:0/0 ST/MOV:0/2 Nodes:16 Tris:781k DispTris:0 Hairs:0 Meshes:2
Textures Grey8/16:0/0 Rgb32/64:0/0
OCT:Compute error 2097152:2891:
OCT:Compute error 2097152:2891 on device 1:

[bepeg4d]

Hi,
thanks for sharing the video.

Things to consider:

• Standalone does not have a viewport, so it does not have to deal with OpenGL/Metal while rendering.
• c4doctane Live View has to deal with both GPU rendering and OpenGL/Metal interface in real time.
• I suppose you have a MacBook Pro, so the Intel+AMD 560 GPUs are also used to manage interface/system/monitor.
• In c4doctane Settings/Devices panel, you can enable the Priority option for the GPUs connected to monitor, and the Priority popup must be set to LOW, since HIGH means no priority.
• If a GPU connected to monitor is deactivated, the Priority is not necessary, since the GPU that handles the interface, is not also used for rendering.
• If you keep both AMD 560 and WX9100 active at the same time, you are losing 12GB of VRAM, since the GPU with less VRAM defines the limit of the system.
• If you run the following test you can have a rough idea of the performance of both GPUs: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=75411&start=700#p399724

Here is how it works on my Mac Mini 2018 with Intel GPU only for system/monitor, and an eGPU AMD 6900:

[ Play Quicktime file ] trim.46B836BA-2302-463C-A276-4BFF6FBA0D47.MOV [ 11.08 MiB | Viewed 1198 times ]

Happy Mac GPU rendering,

ciao Beppe

[bepeg4d]

Forgot to say that, you can go to /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor, run it, then go to menu Window/GPU History, to see the activity of th GPUs while working in Live View:

ciao Beppe

[RegSquires]

Forgot to say that, you can go to /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor, run it, then go to menu Window/GPU History, to see the activity of th GPUs while working in Live View:

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ciao Beppe

Many many thanks. Totally solved. I had no idea what these settings were and since Redshift seemed to work well out of the box I assumed there was a problem. Very well explained and the Activity monitor tip is really useful. Again Beppe many thanks

Richard

[bepeg4d]

Hi Richard,
you are welcome

Happy Mac GPU rendering,
ciao Beppe