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Question: SSS Skin & Alphashadows & hair

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 7:55 pm
by JeffGalloway
I have seen on this board that you need Alphashadows disabled to get a good SSS effect for skin. (I've tested it for myself and it is true, alphashadows enable kills the SSS effect)

But disabling Alphashadows created a big problem for transmapped hair, eyeleshed, etc.

How do you get around this issue?

Re: Question: SSS Skin & Alphashadows & hair

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 8:24 pm
by ch0pper
Alphashadows disabled ]

I have never disabled these whilst rendering, but I will have a play and see what I can comeup with, never really had a problem as all my renders seem to have this enabled. Maybe you could post some of your findings be interested to see what your pictures look like

Re: Question: SSS Skin & Alphashadows & hair

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:06 pm
by face_off
There was an SSS fix put through in Octane 1.13 too - so this might be different on that version. If not - then it is a general Octane issue and should be reported to Otoy.

Paul

Re: Question: SSS Skin & Alphashadows & hair

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:27 pm
by JeffGalloway
Example Issue. This is done (with the poser plugin) in v1.13

Re: Question: SSS Skin & Alphashadows & hair

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:12 pm
by KleanZlate
JeffGalloway wrote:Example Issue. This is done (with the poser plugin) in v1.13


Have you tried setting Absorption and Scattering to 0 and Phase=Scattering Direction to 1?

Re: Question: SSS Skin & Alphashadows & hair

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 3:40 am
by JeffGalloway
KleanZlate wrote:Have you tried setting Absorption and Scattering to 0 and Phase=Scattering Direction to 1?


Yes, I have tried that - and it does not give the same effect that I am getting with alphashadows disabled. There is something about the alphashadows enabled that deadens the SSS effect especially in the large volumes of the body.

Re: Question: SSS Skin & Alphashadows & hair

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:16 am
by face_off
Thanks for the comparison image - very useful. I have escalated this issue to Otoy.

Paul

Re: Question: SSS Skin & Alphashadows & hair

PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:42 pm
by face_off
Otoy have looked at this, and been able to reproduce the problem in Octane Standalone, so it will be fixed in a future release.

Paul

Re: Question: SSS Skin & Alphashadows & hair

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 12:11 am
by JeffGalloway
That's good news!

Re: Question: SSS Skin & Alphashadows & hair

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:41 pm
by JeffGalloway
Can you tell from this:

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=32582

...if the fix for the above issue made it into this (1.15) release?