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Wish list for next plugin release

Postby paulservolex » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:12 am

paulservolex Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:12 am
Hi

i would like :
- limit render in time :
==> when i render an animation it could be great to tell "i don't care if octane render 1000 or 1500 sample, just stop and go next after 3minute

- Stereo render in Side-By-side
this is more complex...
3 solutions:
-- Octane render 2 images files : left eye and right eye (so twice time render) simultanate
-- Octane render 1 image containing the 2 images (search for what is .jps format)
-- check box to tell if we want to render right or left eye

if you have 3d vision glasses you can see one of my render
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGe2Nfixegk

thanks
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Re: Wish list for next plugin release

Postby face_off » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:23 pm

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Hi Paul

They are 2 interesting ideas. I'll be putting together the next version sometime next week.

Limit Render Time - I will consider for the release after next.

Stereo Render - I will need to do some investigation into this. The plugin is a vehicle to control the OctaneRender engine - so it can really only provide functionality that the engine provides - and I haven't played with the 3d too much yet on Standalone. Have you tied setting the left or right channel to black - that way you may just get one eye.

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Re: Wish list for next plugin release

Postby paulservolex » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:16 pm

paulservolex Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:16 pm
Limit Render Time - I will consider for the release after next.

great :)

so it can really only provide functionality that the engine provides

well,
i know it's gonna be hard .
the concept :
- the 2 eyes looking at the same point O (focus lenght seems a good reference)
- left eye is the default render cam
- right eye is the left eye + 1° or 2° angle (custominzable value angle ?) rotation under the point O. Thats all.

Next step : right eyes is left eyes + rotation angle + little translate parallax.

When i render an animation:
- i know how to collapse pictures left-right and make a movie
- public user will not know.
- user playing with 3d format (glasses or other) will need .jps (even for anaglyph, .jps is a good generic format for stereoscopy)
- .jps is a .jpg with 2 side-by-side picture (left right eyes) : i mean a .jpg renamed in .jps thats all
=> octane can/may render the .jpg Side-By-Side renamable
=> using maybe a "fake" animation process of 2 frame : render left eye, render right eye, collapse, save (just an idea !)
=> or render all left eye, then render all right eye and let the user do the rest.

Tell/pray your supervisor to buy you 3d vision glasses and a good nvidia graphic card and a good screen (total 600$) , it's the futur :)

let me know
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Re: Wish list for next plugin release

Postby paulservolex » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:17 pm

paulservolex Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:17 pm
Have you tied setting the left or right channel to black


im gonna try this
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Re: Wish list for next plugin release

Postby paulservolex » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:01 pm

paulservolex Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:01 pm
Have you tied setting the left or right channel to black


seems to work. I confirm later
but in this case , my wish list is :
-stereomode : Side-by-Side = generate left and right side by side picture simultanate
Save option 1:
- .png
- .jpg (really optional)
- .jps (idem)
Save option 2:
- One file (width*2 | height)
- 2 files : Docname+"-L"+Ext for left and Docname+"-R"+Ext (so in a file list order in animation, files are togheter)
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Re: Wish list for next plugin release

Postby face_off » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:47 pm

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-stereomode : Side-by-Side = generate left and right side by side picture simultanate

It would certainly be worth exploring the current stereo mode functionality - it's quite possible it already does this.

Save option 1:
- .png
- .jpg (really optional)
- .jps (idem)

Saving is controlled by the OctaneRender engine, and the options are PNG and EXR. Adding additional save format can only be done in the OctaneRender engine - not in the plugin.

Save option 2:
- One file (width*2 | height)

This would be controlled by the render resolution. There is an enhancement to resolution settings which is similar to this coming in the next release of the plugin.

- 2 files : Docname+"-L"+Ext for left and Docname+"-R"+Ext (so in a file list order in animation, files are togheter)

You can do this at the moment by rendering all frames for the animation for the left eye, then change the animation output folder and render the right eye.

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Re: Wish list for next plugin release

Postby paulservolex » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:02 am

paulservolex Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:02 am
Quote:
- 2 files : Docname+"-L"+Ext for left and Docname+"-R"+Ext (so in a file list order in animation, files are togheter)

You can do this at the moment by rendering all frames for the animation for the left eye, then change the animation output folder and render the right eye.


This will be the ideal solution, because often we need to launch photoshop (or other) automation batch script one every picture before building the movie.
I tryed rendering each eye separtly. It's the solution for the moment, but...

Im quite sure that there is a no so subtil rendering difference quality (sample number equal) between a picture "no-stereo" AND a picture "stereo left white right black",
i don't understand why and it's a problem
any idea ?


So, my wish list for the plugin is :
- time limit rendering
- stereo-mode Side-by-side saving 2 eyes full quality renamed files
:)
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Re: Wish list for next plugin release

Postby paulservolex » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:31 am

paulservolex Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:31 am
A picture for comparison 700 samples no-stereo/ 700 sample stereo left white right black


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http://www.savoie.info/Stereocomparaison.png
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Re: Wish list for next plugin release

Postby itou31 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:04 am

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Re: Wish list for next plugin release

Postby paulservolex » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:11 am

paulservolex Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:11 am
oops, nudity warning ?
Sorry I'm at work.... :oops:


sorry, i update the post subject now
(i croped the picture : )))) )

For the problem :

well, i think i know why ...

it's because even if im rendering only left on the scree, the plugin is still rendering right eye, so 2xrendering , so when i want 700 sample, i only get 350 for each eye...

so my super wish for next plugin update :

solution 1 beta:
-when one eye is black/white, only one is effectively rendered

or
solution 2 finale :
-when one eye is black/white, the 2 eyes are rendered at the full Sample value and saved in renamed separate files.

Possible ?
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