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Modo, Mari and Octane

Postby haffy » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:51 pm

haffy Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:51 pm
Hi,

I am trying to get a normal map from Mari to Octane inside Modo to work. I must do somthing wrong and I cant find out how to make it work. Please help.

I em exporting a "height as normal" Normal Channel and Importing an UDIM in Modo/Octane, but does not happen anything?
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Re: Modo, Mari and Octane

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Re: Modo, Mari and Octane

Postby haffy » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:36 pm

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Yes I am (is there another way of adding UDIMs?)
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Re: Modo, Mari and Octane

Postby calus » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:05 pm

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Hey Paul,

Octane doesn't currently support mixing any textures for normal maps,
I used a similar trick as you for UDIM with the Maya plugin,
but I eventually found out it can't work with normal map and displacement map.

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Re: Modo, Mari and Octane

Postby haffy » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:35 pm

haffy Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:35 pm
So just to check if I have understood this correctly, UDIMs does not work if they are Normal maps?
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Re: Modo, Mari and Octane

Postby face_off » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:30 pm

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Yes I am (is there another way of adding UDIMs?)
What is not working pls? Can you give some details/screenshots of your setup and the problem? Is Modo rendering the normal map? Can you send me a sample scene showing the problem pls?

Octane doesn't currently support mixing any textures for normal maps,
It should - it's the mixing of maps for Displacement which does not currently work.

So just to check if I have understood this correctly, UDIMs does not work if they are Normal maps?
They should work.

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Re: Modo, Mari and Octane

Postby calus » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:35 pm

calus Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:35 pm
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Octane doesn't currently support mixing any textures for normal maps,
It should - it's the mixing of maps for Displacement which does not currently work.

So just to check if I have understood this correctly, UDIMs does not work if they are Normal maps?
They should work.

Paul


Well I found that normal map pin in material nodes only support input from imageTexture node, so multiply node are not supported.

Also mutliplying imageTexture by pluging it in the power attribute of another ImageTexture node doesn't work either,
in the normal map case the power input is converted to greyscal...

And Roeland confirmed this in the topic of my Maya UDIM tool (link in my previous message):
roeland wrote:That is correct, we don't currently support mixing any textures for normal maps.


But if you really found a way to mix normal map with Octane, I would be happy to know it :) .
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Re: Modo, Mari and Octane

Postby face_off » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:48 am

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Well I found that normal map pin in material nodes only support input from imageTexture node, so multiply node are not supported.

Also mutliplying imageTexture by pluging it in the power attribute of another ImageTexture node doesn't work either,
in the normal map case the power input is converted to greyscal...
Are you sure that not because the normal map has RGB channels mapping to an XYZ vector? I'm not sure you could easily tweak a normal map to adjust it. What effect are you trying to get?

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Re: Modo, Mari and Octane

Postby haffy » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:54 am

haffy Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:54 am
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Yes I am (is there another way of adding UDIMs?)
What is not working pls? Can you give some details/screenshots of your setup and the problem? Is Modo rendering the normal map? Can you send me a sample scene showing the problem pls?

Octane doesn't currently support mixing any textures for normal maps,
It should - it's the mixing of maps for Displacement which does not currently work.

So just to check if I have understood this correctly, UDIMs does not work if they are Normal maps?
They should work.

Paul


I can not get it to show anything, that's my problem. And I am unsure if I have done it correctly (the maps are made in MARI).

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Re: Modo, Mari and Octane

Postby face_off » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:00 am

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The normal maps look blank to me.
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