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Frequent crashing in C4D S24

Postby MotionMark » Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:09 pm

MotionMark Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:09 pm
Using the latest version of Octane (2020.2.3 R6)
Using latest Studio Drivers from NVIDIA (462.59) (RTX 2070)

I added a _BugReport.txt in my post.

It seems to crash at random, not when I do something specific. Sometimes it crashes as soon as I hit the Render button in the Octane viewport. Once it crashes, I sometimes cannot even open Cinema4D again. I get a 3rd party plugin error when I launch C4D, and then it automatically closes. Just recently, I was trying to open C4D multiple times to capture a screenshot of that, but it opened normally out of the blue.

Hope someone from OTOY can help, thanks!
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Re: Frequent crashing in C4D S24

Postby bepeg4d » Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:01 am

bepeg4d Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:01 am
Hi,
please have a look at this other discussion here:
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=73228&p=399939&hilit=wintab#p399939

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Re: Frequent crashing in C4D S24

Postby LoopCorp » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:41 pm

LoopCorp Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:41 pm
I found this thread because I am experiencing the same thing. I only recently upgraded to S24 having used S20 until now but it has been very temperamental with Octane. It frequently crashes so I recently tested my scene by removing all scene elements and reintroducing them one by one to find the culprit but then it worked fine throughout. However after quitting and restarting next day it started crashing again. In desperation I went back to S20 and the same file has been working fine. I went to the other thread but I don't have a Huion tablet so that doesn't apply here. I could download S25 to try now but I don't want to mid-project now that it is stable in S20.
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Re: Frequent crashing in C4D S24

Postby bepeg4d » Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:30 am

bepeg4d Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:30 am
Sorry, what was the culprit?
Can you share the scene with assets with me via Private Message, along with the steps to have issues in S24?

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Re: Frequent crashing in C4D S24

Postby LoopCorp » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:46 am

LoopCorp Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:46 am
That’s the odd thing, couldn’t find a culprit. When I’d totally reassembled it, the scene that crashed a lot worked for a while. But later became unstable again. But it’s not just this one scene. Other very simple scenes were crashing s24 too, always when launching IPR and blaming the Octane plugin. When I went back to s20, my most complex scene worked just fine.
Im happy to send you the scene but I feel like it may just be some combination of factors peculiar to my PC. Although having only installed s24 recently, it’s pretty vanilla. Doesn’t have all the stuff I load into s20. I came here to check it wasn’t something a lot of people had experienced and fixed.
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Re: Frequent crashing in C4D S24

Postby KeeWe » Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:54 pm

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I In my opinion, Octane is pretty unstable since V4. Of course, scenes get more complex but IMO the software came to a point where I wouldn't call it "Stable release". Due to the randomness of crashes, I don't bother with bug reports.

I have scenes where it crashes as soon as hitting render, solo nodes in the node editor or switching cameras.. same scenes render flawlessly for 20 hours after this. As much as I love Octane, the instability because a bigger and bigger issue.
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Re: Frequent crashing in C4D S24

Postby aoktar » Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:06 pm

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KeeWe wrote:I In my opinion, Octane is pretty unstable since V4. Of course, scenes get more complex but IMO the software came to a point where I wouldn't call it "Stable release". Due to the randomness of crashes, I don't bother with bug reports.

I have scenes where it crashes as soon as hitting render, solo nodes in the node editor or switching cameras.. same scenes render flawlessly for 20 hours after this. As much as I love Octane, the instability because a bigger and bigger issue.

We don't think so because we're having much bigger data from userbase. But there's several factors can cause problems on you side. Asking for help will let we know what's your issues.
In the bugreport of this user, I cannot see Octane related information. But it's ended with "Wintab32.dll". I believe i's a common problem with this file. Beppe may help with that
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Re: Frequent crashing in C4D S24

Postby KeeWe » Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:23 pm

KeeWe Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:23 pm
Thanks for the answer Ahmet. :)
Please let me make clear that I don't want to critize your work. I just wanted to share my experience as user since V2. Of course there can be a problem on my side, as far as I know Threadripper system tend to make more problems. Dual GPU with mixed GPU may be a source of errors as well. And we all know, Windows is crap. :D

Just a quick example: working on a scene for 30 minutes with no problems... soloing the bump node and octane crashes. After that it works flawlessly with the same actions. Maybe I'll think of it to file a bug report the next time I get such a crash. Another side is the stability of other render engines but I won't bring this topic here. It just indicates to me that the problem is not always on my side.

But I'm curious about the Wintab32.dll thing, I hope Beppe can say something about it. :)
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Re: Frequent crashing in C4D S24

Postby aoktar » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:10 pm

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Solo crashes maybe about me, but not others. Of course just hoping :) Better is to always call for some help in cases

Here's wintab32 discussion, returning to work for the moment;)
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=73228&p=399939&hilit=Wintab32.dll#p399939
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