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hair...still can not render?

Postby e880291 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:35 pm

e880291 Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:35 pm
I use plugin i.01---------------Windows 1.01 beta Plugin for Softimage® x64

and Octane render standalone 2.03

I still can not render the hair in softimage this verson

but i saw the new verson RELEASE NOTES:

Hair rendering
An optimized hair render primitive is now available to allow rendering of hair or fur while reducing memory usage by 20 times compared to previous processes. OctaneRender™ 2.0 will also simulate the distribution and fluidity of movement of those primitives. Hair rendering is mainly a render feature and the geometry needs to be provided via the scene. The Alembic importer supports reading spline/polyline data and converting it into hair primitives, by either using the hair thickness stored in the Alembic file (if available at all) or using the default thickness specified in the import preferences.

But how to do this with softimage??

even I use Alembic file export ,I just use the polyline but not the "hair" right?

is there any tutors step by step tell us what it says?
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Re: hair...still can not render?

Postby face » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:15 pm

face Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:15 pm
The release notes are for Octane 2.0.
The new 1.02RC10 plugin is still for Octane 1.x.
I will first make a stable release with all features impemented before i switch to 2.x.

The only way i see is to use Alembic, but i don´t know how to setup Alembic to export hair or ICE-Strands.

I see that this will not help you, but it shows the way i want to go.
When i switch now the plugin to 2.0 and add the features which are missing, you have to buy a new 2.x update.
I think this isn´t fair for 1.x users which have also paid for all missing features.
I wish i would have more time to develope, but i´m only a one man show with another job.
So i can only develope in my spare time and this is realy slow.

Sorry for this,
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Re: hair...still can not render?

Postby e880291 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:27 am

e880291 Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:27 am
The only way i see is to use Alembic, but i don´t know how to setup Alembic to export hair or ICE-Strands.-----------------------yes I also don't know how to do this....

thanks for your help

the softimage2015 is the end verson.... do you still to develope the 2.X plugin for softimage2015?

we hope you can do this ,no matter how it is slowly )))))
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Re: hair...still can not render?

Postby face » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:33 am

face Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:33 am
e880291 wrote:The only way i see is to use Alembic, but i don´t know how to setup Alembic to export hair or ICE-Strands.-----------------------yes I also don't know how to do this....

thanks for your help

the softimage2015 is the end verson.... do you still to develope the 2.X plugin for softimage2015?

we hope you can do this ,no matter how it is slowly )))))

Yes, i will develope the 2.x also for 2015.

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Re: hair...still can not render?

Postby e880291 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:17 am

e880291 Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:17 am
we are deeply grateful!!! :D
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Re: hair...still can not render?

Postby e880291 » Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:44 am

e880291 Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:44 am
if we can not render hair in xsi plug in
how about we use the Alembic??? and render fur in octane stand alone verson?
http://exocortex.com/products/crate/description

did you try this way before?

by the way...
my company maybe plan to buy redshift because we can use it render fur , but I really don't like this choice ( I love octane render and concept.... ) we can't wait the new version , if it still need very long time to develop...
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Re: hair...still can not render?

Postby face » Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:10 pm

face Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:10 pm
e880291 wrote:if we can not render hair in xsi plug in
how about we use the Alembic??? and render fur in octane stand alone verson?
http://exocortex.com/products/crate/description

did you try this way before?

by the way...
my company maybe plan to buy redshift because we can use it render fur , but I really don't like this choice ( I love octane render and concept.... ) we can't wait the new version , if it still need very long time to develop...

The hair would only render in Octane standalone 2.x.
If you have it, you must also pay for a new 2.x Softimage plugin which isn´t available because i still use the 1.55 SDK.
I wouldn´t change it since all is implemented, but maybe i can switch between different SDK packages and has one code for both plugins.

Must test it,
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Re: hair...still can not render?

Postby e880291 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:43 am

e880291 Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:43 am
I'm very looking forward to rendering Fur in softimage

because my studio must use it to do our creative movie..........

for now, my partners use a plugin to transfer ice to mesh (fur using ICE)
and also try to use fur to Instance

but...all the same problem...the texture of fur on the skin will be miss.... (like a Stripe of tiger or Zebra......)
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Re: hair...still can not render?

Postby face » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:01 am

face Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:01 am
Have you tried the free Soft2Octane exporter? It´s more an external solution, but it will work with ICE.
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=33321
For stills it can be an option.
http://www.vimeo.com/26567419

Do´t know with which Softimage/Octane version it runs, haven´t test it ;)

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Re: hair...still can not render?

Postby e880291 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:11 am

e880291 Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:11 am
this is very cool

and I still have last two question(still the hair question)

even I use this way(use ICE make fur or hair)

how can I control the texture of all the skin(like...tiger or.Zebra),and the color map of root to tip? :D :D :D


thank you,Face
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