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Otoy's plans to fight noise in glossy reflections

Postby coilbook » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:28 pm

coilbook Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:28 pm
Hi Are you, guys, planning to combat glossy noise in version 3.1 . Light reflecting in glossy textures especially if roughness is used looks very bad no matter how long you render. Also glossy light reflection and DOF looks bad. I attached the video where you can see light reflection noise chaotically moving even though static noise is on. (camera is moving towards metal doors )

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Re: Otoy's plans to fight noise in glossy reflections

Postby Terryvfx » Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:01 pm

Terryvfx Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:01 pm
I'm yet to see a clean render come out of Octane, with that being said, try the following:

Lower the GI clap value.
Set the caustic blur to 1.
Increase the size of your light sources.
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Re: Otoy's plans to fight noise in glossy reflections

Postby coilbook » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:39 pm

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Terryvfx wrote:I'm yet to see a clean render come out of Octane, with that being said, try the following:

Lower the GI clap value.
Set the caustic blur to 1.
Increase the size of your light sources.



Thank you.

I agree Otoy's number one priority should be creating cleaner rendering so it will look 100% professional. All of our renderings have noise especially in reflections, textures with bumps, etc. Rednerers like Vray or CPU based render cleaner I think
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Re: Otoy's plans to fight noise in glossy reflections

Postby haze » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:52 pm

haze Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:52 pm
coilbook wrote:
Terryvfx wrote:I'm yet to see a clean render come out of Octane, with that being said, try the following:

Lower the GI clap value.
Set the caustic blur to 1.
Increase the size of your light sources.



Thank you.

I agree Otoy's number one priority should be creating cleaner rendering so it will look 100% professional. All of our renderings have noise especially in reflections, textures with bumps, etc. Rednerers like Vray or CPU based render cleaner I think


According to abstrax there's still a lot to do before we can release adaptive sampling, but we do have a prototype in the office already.
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Re: Otoy's plans to fight noise in glossy reflections

Postby coilbook » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:55 pm

coilbook Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:55 pm
haze wrote:
coilbook wrote:
Terryvfx wrote:I'm yet to see a clean render come out of Octane, with that being said, try the following:

Lower the GI clap value.
Set the caustic blur to 1.
Increase the size of your light sources.



Thank you.

I agree Otoy's number one priority should be creating cleaner rendering so it will look 100% professional. All of our renderings have noise especially in reflections, textures with bumps, etc. Rednerers like Vray or CPU based render cleaner I think


According to abstrax there's still a lot to do before we can release adaptive sampling, but we do have a prototype in the office already.



sounds great!
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Re: Otoy's plans to fight noise in glossy reflections

Postby Rik » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:44 am

Rik Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:44 am
sounds great!


Yes it does but don't hold your breath. They've been promising this for ages but delivered nothing whilst the other major render engines just get on and implement it.

Guess the Otoy chiefs are just prioritising other stuff which must be much more important than a bit of silly old noise...
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Re: Otoy's plans to fight noise in glossy reflections

Postby zoppo » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:21 pm

zoppo Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:21 pm
First of all - I like the noise, it is important foor the look & feel.
Second: I bought NeatVideo for scenes that needed cleanup and I recommend it highly!
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Re: Otoy's plans to fight noise in glossy reflections

Postby aoktar » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:50 pm

aoktar Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:50 pm
Check adaptive sampling
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Re: Otoy's plans to fight noise in glossy reflections

Postby pegot » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:39 pm

pegot Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:39 pm
zoppo wrote: I bought NeatVideo for scenes that needed cleanup and I recommend it highly!

+1 Neat Video
I myself just recently purchased NeatVideo for some animations I did not have time to render noise free and have to say its quite amazing and works really well with lots of controls for fine tuning.

+1000 Adaptive Sampling from Otoy :P
So far I really like what I see but tested on only one file. Together with Neat Video (if necessary) I can see my work flow really freeing up to use Octane with more complex animations.
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Re: Otoy's plans to fight noise in glossy reflections

Postby coilbook » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:20 pm

coilbook Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:20 pm
zoppo wrote:First of all - I like the noise, it is important foor the look & feel.
Second: I bought NeatVideo for scenes that needed cleanup and I recommend it highly!


i think they should do both noise off and on. most of our noise problems are just poor rendering with not enough time given to render an image noise free but for animations we cannot do 16000 samples per frame
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